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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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Alex Jones Exposed! |
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This is the thread for discussing the page here; http://www.opposingdigits.com/alex/
Please inform me here of any disinfo (with evidence) or respectful defense of Alex Jones. Also if there's something I should add to the page.
Thanks!
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| Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:46 pm |
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autocannibal
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 140 Location: the forbidden zone |
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i hereby submit that he looks like a used car salesman. and thus cant be trusted.
evidence:
but seriously, how can he be called a truth seeker when he wont acknowledge zionism with so much glaring evidence?
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| Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:13 pm |
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Ninja-x1
Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 14 Location: Kissimmee, Florida |
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 |  | i hereby submit that he looks like a used car salesman. and thus cant be trusted.
evidence:
but seriously, how can he be called a truth seeker when he wont acknowledge zionism with so much glaring evidence? |
ROFL car salesman
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| Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:45 pm |
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PersianPaladin
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I DISSAPROVE of character assasination of ANY type. True, we should inform people if they have bad intentions but only if it is very well researched and also takes into account the GOOD THINGS they have done as well. Alex Jones has exposed a good amount of truth so it would be unfair to do an outright condemnation of his entire credibility on that regard, because people will miss the good things that he has pointed out and only focus on the bad things. If he has bad intentions, we need more evidence. True, he has not agreed with us as much on Israel or zionism and some of his theories are a bit far-fetched and over conspiratorial. Despite his 'allegiances' we have to follow the philosophy of "take the good, and leave the bad" from ALL sources - whether they be mainstream ones or highly niche 'bloggers'. There is a lot of grey out there and truth mixed in with falsity. We have to concentrate on reconciling the truth from the mess of half-truths and misinformation and gather a synthesis of truth taken from multiple sources. Hell, Hitler was an evil bastard but he pointed out a lot of truths about the way geopolitics and the sheep-minded masses operate. Let's think more carefully before 'compartmentalizing' people.
Regards
PP
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| Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:08 am |
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autocannibal
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 140 Location: the forbidden zone |
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what about all the disinfo and lies he spreads in the name of "truth"?
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| Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:30 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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The guy is complicit with mass murder, and torture and you're defending him? 
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| Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:51 am |
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Benjamin Freedman
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Persian Paladin,
there is nothing wrong to point on certain Facts about Alex Jones and let people decide for themselves.
Hitler was a Zionist installed puppet. Do you know about economy of Germany before he was put into power? Where did he get his money from?
Those times most of Jews wanted to assimilate, which is exact opposite what Zionists wanted. They wanted for Jews to remain "pure race" and segregate them.
Therefore they used fear of antisemitism as their weapon.
Excellent research http://jewishracism.com/SaintEinstein.pdf .
Everything sourced, verifiable.
In that book you will find what is "Remnant Saints" community.
They're nothing new.
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| Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:56 am |
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stOneskull
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paladin, i think your point is kept in mind.
there are just other angles too.
marx was and is still considered by many to be 'good'.
and now weishaupt is being portrayed as 'good'.
lord rothschild, the royalty and the media are 'good'.
haha.
global communists, all of 'em.
a United Kingdom..
for THEM!
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| Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:53 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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You could say that what goes around comes around. Alex Jones tried character assasination on David Icke as documented in the page in question. 
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| Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:03 am |
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PersianPaladin
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I think this mentality of 'exposing' people outright without giving a BALANCED overall view of their output is very immature and only serves to DIVIDE the truth-movement as opposed to unite it in purpose. I am not defending Alex Jones, but i certainly will not be convinced into slating his character outright or into character assasination. Your 'exposed' article is very imbalanced and does not show the good things he has done too. I think you should've done it far more sensitivley, telling people to be aware of any holes in alex jones' articles but also aware that there is some good stuff there too. People like Daryl Bradford Smith are nearly on the ball in terms of truth, but they still suffer from the same back-biting and character assasination disease that most internet users seem to suffer from. What happened to maturity?
This is why i am increasinly pissed off with the Internet as a medium. I remember the days when it first came out and there were lots of debates on bulletin-boards but most people followed the rules of 'Netiquette' and slander was kept to a minimum. These days you just see slander, character assasination, backbiting, pathological science, strawman arguments and poorly researched stuff smattered all over the god-forsaken web - designed to split up communities or to cause trouble (i am not referring to your 'exposed' article in particular btw) . It's become more about personalities than the truth. F*ck personalities, i don't care their allegiance, i just want the truth goddamn it.
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| Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:22 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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@PersianPaladin
I FULLY expect you to go around reacting to George W. Bush attacks with that same fervor!
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| Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:35 am |
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PersianPaladin
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I FULLY expect you to go around reacting to George W. Bush attacks with that same fervor! |
There is a BIG difference between George Bush and Alex Jones. George Bush has demonstrated his beliefs and philosophies in a very clear way by the means of aggressive action and active policy. Alex Jones has NOT although there are doubts about his intentions and we should be careful when studying his sources for zionist influenced information.
Please don't jump to extremes or misinformed comparisons. It only serves to discredit the otherwise VERY GOOD work that you have done on this site in exposing zionism.
Regards
PP
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| Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:44 am |
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Benjamin Freedman
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I accept uniting the truth movement,
under leadership of honest people like Hufschmid, Smith, Bollyn.
edit: due to unexpected behavior of Mike Piper he will not appear in this list.
If it is not so, then Alex Jones, Rense, Flocco, Ruppert are stealing them from the truth.
Their lies should be exposed.
These calls to unite are attempt to omit the lies put by Alex Jones and his "friends".
Theyre not targetting the facts, because facts speak for Smith.
Alex Jones's past is his past, we are living in present.
The best way to con people is by telling them truth at the beginning , and when they put their trust in you, to fool them.
This is what Alex Jones and his "friends" are doing now.
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| Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:36 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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I'm gonna be straight up: I don't trust ANYONE whining about dividing the truth movement.
Alex Jones is not about truth.
Defending him puts you on his side making you also complicit with the mass murder, poisoning, rape, land grabbing, terrorism, and torture by Zionists.
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| Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:42 am |
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PersianPaladin
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 |  | I'm gonna be straight up: I don't trust ANYONE whining about dividing the truth movement.
Alex Jones is not about truth.
Defending him puts you on his side making you also complicit with the mass murder, poisoning, rape, land grabbing, terrorism, and torture by Zionists. |
Am i saying that he is about truth?
Am i talking about the man? NO. I'm not. I'm just saying STOP CHARACTER ASSASINATION. It really doesn't help things at all. Just tell people to be AWARE AND BECAREFUL of zionist influences on some of his articles but also to take the good from his website and leave the bad. There is a lot of grey out there and we should stop being so black and white with our judgements.
It pisses me off. Honestly, this is what the Zionists and NWO agenda want; to divide the truth movement or to split it into camps evolved around personality. Stick with the truth, because the truth is not in one particular place - its scattered about this whole mess of a world we live in. I don't approve of paranoia.
Personalities and 'camps' let you down. The truth does not.
(BTW - Please be aware, i'm on your side. It's just that i don't like the way the form of communication of such things is going)
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