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PersianPaladin
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Lol. LooseChange forums have just moved my thread to 'Under the Bridge' forum (i.e. 'where all the trolls lurk'). I am NOT a troll, i have NOT insulted anybody or spouted falsity, yet they call me a troll.
By doing that they have been EXPOSED.
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:00 pm |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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Lol, they were exposed a long time ago. Just listen to the phone interviews with Eric Hufschmid where they just can't handle the truth. Check out how they divert to Bohemian Grove when asked about Zionism. I'd have exposed them along with Alex.. Alex was just easier and more proveable for me.
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| Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:32 pm |
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PersianPaladin
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 |  | Lol, they were exposed a long time ago. Just listen to the phone interviews with Eric Hufschmid where they just can't handle the truth. Check out how they divert to Bohemian Grove when asked about Zionism. I'd have exposed them along with Alex.. Alex was just easier and more proveable for me. |
Lol.
Here's what Phil Jayhan told me in one of his replies: -
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Did you know that Reagan handed over America to the Vatican? He signed a Concordat with the Vatican, recognizing the Vatican, for the first time in American history. With him signing the Concordat with the Vatican, he gave up America to the sovereignty of the Vatican. This is the same thing as formally signing onto the Treaty of Rome, whereby every signatory nation forfeits their own Sovereignty, to that of Rome.
The Vatican won't and doesn't recognize any nation that doesn't recognize her Total Sovereignty, and thus right to rule by Divine Decree.
With the exchange of Envoys and Ambassadors which Reagan ordered in 1981, he is essense gave America to the Nation of the "Holy See."
Every single nation that either signs onto the Treay of Rome, or signs a Concordat is, by the document itself, handing over their own Sovereignty.
And I didn't downplay Zionism in the least. Please reread my post. I acknowledged its dangers to our security. All I said, is that there is just one more layer of the onion that needs to be looked at because it is that layer (The Vatican) that controls Zionism.
Read the Bible, for without an understanding of the bible, you will be in the dark as to the nature of Zionism, as well as the Vatican.
Of course the Vatican would like to control all the middle-east and their oil. Thats why they helped give birth to Israel in the first place. But not the main reason. That was the very reason for the Balfour Treaty in the first place.
cheers-
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:44 am |
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the people who did this mess for thousands of years are now hiding behind zionism mostly, because zionism fits well into their plan of one world government ruled from Israel.
Read the information on Daryl Smith's site or even more detailed research in this 2800 pages book
http://jewishracism.com/SaintEinstein.htm
and you will see that people at the core of zionism are highly likely to be the real culprits of it all.
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| Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:36 am |
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PersianPaladin
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Here is what i posted on LetsRoll911 org: -
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Israel and the zionists are ONE. The international zionists have produced Israel as their power base in the middle-east; as a means of not only strategic power, but also control and exploitation of Judaism and the destruction and manipulation of monotheistic religion towards secularist humanism and externalism. They want to control the heartland of the monotheistic faith; in order to destroy it and pervert it from within.
These zionists have always meddled in world affairs and have been in control of most of the governments for over 100 years; with co-operation or lobbying prior to that. The Balfour Treaty (listen to Ben Freedman's speech) was engineered by the zionists when they made a deal with Britain to help them establish the state of Israel. Why should've the British listened to them and make a deal with them if they were so marginal? What would be in it for the british? The zionists had the british in their pockets. Why would britain concern itself with that part of the middle east at that time? This is why Ben Freedman's speech is so important, it helps you understand the motives of the zionists and their desire for control.
Since then, the zionists have become internationalized into the global governments, financial institutions, media and legal institutions around the world. All of them have their interests in funding Israel and keeping it going - they keep their agenda safe and secure by internationalizing their grip of power so as to not leave themselves vulnerable and localised. Their real intention is to expand Israel and to create a global system of zionist derived finance, satanic denial of monotheism and support of the Jewish Temple and Anti-Christ, anti-Islamic sentiments and materialism as well as systems designed to rebel against God. Israel is the fruition and crystallization of the zionist philosophy of rebellion against God and the true monotheism. Once they control the heartland of montotheism with perversion; they want to control the whole world and turn into one system of perversion.
The crucial thing to realise here is - that ALL these zionists support Israel. People from other groups may aid and abate them, but the power lies with the zionists. If you just follow the claims of Alex Jones and believe the sole idea of a satanic or Luciferian New World Order; then you will be lead away from the truth and diverted from the true God-hating zionists who are behind it all. By down-playing the extent of Israeli involvement in such conspiracies; the likes of Alex Jones downplay the involvement of zionism at an international level. We MUST REALISE that zionism and support of Israel are one and the same. Israel and zionists are the criminals here; Alex Jones just makes you forget that and tells you to chase after satanists or luciferian government agents instead (hence diverting you from the zionist\israel link).
As long as money continues to be poured into Israel...then the zionist criminals are still in power within our governments, off-shore banks, and other institutions. Israel (and exploitation and perversion of Judaism) is their INTIMATE project, and they continue to ensure its survival for as long as they can. Focusing just on a few bad eggs in the Bush administration or super-rich 'elite' families in Europe and the US will NOT help the problem. We need to expose the zionist\Israeli funders for who they are - and remember that they and the funding of Israel are intimately intertwined. For soon their 'Israel' will become a world project where everybody has to submit to their rebellion against God and the truth; as well as their false anti-Christ God.
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| Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:34 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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 |  | zionism fits well into their plan of one world government ruled from Israel. |
Matthew 24:15-21 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
I wonder if the Jewish people realise they're going to need to fulfill this prophecy to convince the Christian Zionists or are they going to exterminate Christians first?
Christians can pray and try to convert people all they want; they're only serving this heinous crimewave and will reap their reward on earth.
*We have a new audio excerpt of Alex Jones confessing!
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| Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:05 am |
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Lol. I don't think that was a confession, sadly.
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| Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:53 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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Maybe you should hear it in context from his site.
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| Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:17 am |
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PersianPaladin
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 |  | Maybe you should hear it in context from his site. |
Where can i hear it in full?
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| Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:27 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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Wendel from IRC just pointed out to me that Alex has a lot of older articles about Zionism on his site. Funny thing is that I don't believe wendel is even a fan of Alex. It's pretty sad that Alex's fans couldn't defend him. Now I'm left pondering scrapping the page, investigating more, or modifying the page.
http://www.infowars.net/multimedia/audio/071406_alex_israel_call_in.mp3
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| Sat Jul 15, 2006 2:38 pm |
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 |  | Wendel from IRC just pointed out to me that Alex has a lot of older articles about Zionism on his site. Funny thing is that I don't believe wendel is even a fan of Alex. It's pretty sad that Alex's fans couldn't defend him. Now I'm left pondering scrapping the page, investigating more, or modifying the page.
http://www.infowars.net/multimedia/audio/071406_alex_israel_call_in.mp3 |
So are you saying Alex Jones has been vindicated just because some random guy from IRC said so? How can he be when he avoids the Israeli and zionist issue? Like this for example: -
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Alex Jones might have talked about zionism, but he certainly doesn't give it the importance or centrality it deserves.
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| Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:55 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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The page is staying up. There's too much fishy stuff about him.
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| Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:43 am |
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PersianPaladin
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About who? About wendel or Alex?
BTW - Alex Jones has talked about zionism recently; but he keeps linking the zionists as PAWNS of the US government or some satanist global organisation. As DBS has said, Alex doesn't want to lose his listeners so he is prepared to talk about zionism now; it's just that he is downplaying it as the center of the conspiracy.
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| Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:47 am |
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa |
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Wendel's fine... I don't trust Alex. I haven't for quite a while now and that was before I heard of Daryl Bradford Smith.
I get an incredible amount of support and hate conserning the page. The haters don't make any good points... Wendel did.
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| Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:58 am |
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yeah man.. they wanted us to stop.. to crawl back in the alex 'sheeple' pen.
i just got banned from the loose change forum for this reason:
'you're either with the official truth movement or you're against it'
they act like they are for freedom and freedom of speech,
but if you exercise that right.. and say something not in line with the official group,
then it is you who is dividing people..
it is THEM who is dividing people like us out of it.
you know they say investigating truth-seekers is dividing..
well you may as well say alex jones is dividing the 911 movement for criticising michael moore -
it's the same bloody logic.
damn hypocrites.. yeah man, keep it up.
edit: i'm interested in a 'john stadtmiller exposed' feature now...
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| Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:49 pm |
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