This is why I am not a Christian. I am not a slave to Israel or their prophet, Jesus. This entire religion (well, most are) built on slavery of the mind through fear.
It's the BIGGEST and cruelest hoax ever played on humanity.
Am I saying I am an athiest? NO.
This is a troubling statement to me. What Christian denomination were you previously a part of? I think your reasons for leaving are the same reasons alot of people give, but they still don't make sense. Perhaps your dwelling on minor things instead of the whole picture? Have you thoroughly investigated Christianity based on the bible and not what some human said it should be? Have you thoroughly investigated other religions? Not sure.
Anyways, it goes back to the basics.
There is good and evil, right and wrong. Being conscious of your thoughts and actions isn't a way to control you. What you need to keep in mind is that where would your morals lie if you didn't have a belief system such as Christianity or the ten commandments?
Would you be a self-less, humble, respectful person who always treated others how he himself would like to be treated?
Look around. The world can prove this question to us all immediately. A lot, if not most people are morally corrupt in today's society. Sure you'll argue that most people are not murderers or thieves or rapists. Sure alot of people seem to have good intentions. I know alot of these filthy rich celebrities donate money to starving children. Are they doing it because the truly believe it's their responsibility? I think the majority of these people donate money to make themselves look good or to advance a personal agenda.
I am not perfect, but take a look at the degeneration of our society over the past 60 years. It's quite evident that people do not have the same respect for Gods laws. Just because people can sleep with many partners now and have less risk of pregnancy does't mean it's the moral thing to do. Think of the consequences for these small self indulgent pleasures. Look at how many bastard children we have today. Take a look at how many single mothers/fathers we have today. Take a look at how many gays, pedophiles and sexual perverts we have today.
I cringe when I think of how our society will be in another 50 years unless things change drastically. I am not saying that people with one parent are bad or not capable. What I am saying is that people are not animals. We value the love of the traditional family. Ideally we need both a mother and a father to form proper relationships in our adult lives.
If these people were obeying the laws of nature (sex after marriage, with the opposite sex) these problems certainly wouldn't be an issue. Do you really believe that abortion isn't murder? Why do we have these ridiculous debates within society? Clearly the abortion issue wouldn't exist if people were a little more conscious of natural law.
Can you please explain to me how TRUE BIBLICAL CHRISTIANITY makes me a slave to Israel? I am not a stupid Christian Zionist if that's what you mean.
Yes, it's quite clear that MAN distorted the bible and has used it for his owns selfish interests. Catholicism is an example. The Scoffield bible is an example. Most of the new bible translations are examples of this. Jehovahs Witness, Mormon, Masonry etc. are examples of this DECEIT.
There are true biblical Christians out there and as far as I'm concerned, that is the ONLY form of Christianity. The rest are false religions. A good term is Churchianity. Bill Schnoebelen, Fritz Springmeier, Ted Pike and Des Griffin are not Christian Zionists.
You guys are all familiar with Daryl Bradford Smith. Have you listened to Ted Pike praise Israel lately? How about Dr. Lorraine Day or Texe Marrs? These people EXPOSE the lies of Zionist/Talmudist/Satanist ideologies.
I believe you are still confusing man made religions/statements with what the God of the bible says. There is a HUGE difference between man's self serving agenda and God's.
Zionism worships the Talmud which is Phariseeism. This is MAN MADE law. That is the problem with it. The beliefs of Zionism stem directly from the racial supremacist beliefs of the Pharisees or Rabbis.
Of course these bigotted points of view are just a way to control my mind and I guess it's worked right?
Don't get me wrong here. I know this is an intelligent discussion and I offered my piece. I am sorry if I did offend anyone, but my point is clear to me. I guess if others can't see it then that's fine to.
Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:58 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Human Cattle wrote:
How about Dr. Lorraine Day or Texe Marrs? These people EXPOSE the lies of Zionist/Talmudist/Satanist ideologies.
I believe you are still confusing man made religions/statements with what the God of the bible says.
Lorraine Day charges an arm and a leg for a single dvd that only exposes the lies behind one infirmity. We expose many for free and for all I know (I'm not paying) better! Texe Marrs I don't consider too credible given his affiliation with Alex Jones and I was sitting next to a science geek that was contesting a lot of what he said while I was watching one of his videos pertaining to space shuttle naming and other stuff.
Disinfo is mixed with truths. I studied the Bible intensely for myself. It's racist.
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Many people believe that a man named Jesus Christ walked on this planet, was a great example for others and many people followed him.
However when Bible is so full of inconsistencies, then what is "true Biblical Christianity"?
You are apparently referring to honest people who follow basic Christ's teachings - don't lie, don't steal, don't cheat, love one another etc etc.
I have no problem with that, it is even part of my belief system.
I don't force it onto others though - don't get me wrong, im talking about other people like daro2096 with their statements like
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You can't question God.
- when somebody is doing this i have serious problem.
All i am saying for everyone is: Look at the Bible properly
- it even stays there that Jesus said -
"I am sent ONLY to the lost tribes of Israel."
There are multiple examples of such things.
This may be another spoiling of the message perpetrated by Jewish Talmudic Racists (did you read properly what Rosenthal said?),
or some people are referring to spiritual Israel - however this argument is seriously flawed - i don;t remeber exactly, where it clearly refers to tribes as to part of some race.
so what religion do you believe the zionists follow? do you think the zionists are at the top of the worlds power pyramid? do you have any resources for your information that you wanna share with the forum?
Also have you read the satanic bible???? I have and it is nothing like what these kretins are doing to the world. It is an eye opening book and worth reading but please dont confuse it with zionism/Judaism. Also it is far farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr less evil (not even evil in my eyes) then the Talmud (book of hate)
Cheers
Chris
Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:04 am
knockternal Kingpin
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 93 Location: Bay Area, Ca
Big Bro's worst nightmare wrote:
Also have you read the satanic bible???? I have and it is nothing like what these kretins are doing to the world. It is an eye opening book and worth reading but please dont confuse it with zionism/Judaism. Also it is far farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr less evil (not even evil in my eyes) then the Talmud (book of hate)
Cheers
Chris
^^
i own one of the first copys that were printed... laveyism isnt the worship of the deity called lucifer but the philispohical belief that we are our own gods and that the things that have been labeld as "sinful" should be embraced as desires that we as humans were meant to experience...
oh wait im not supposed to know that cuz im jewish huh??? LOL
Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:14 am
Gunther
Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 358 Location: You Already Know Where I Am!!!
Ok... I'm not gonna entertain but I'll try to be short... This table gives you a basic idea of when religions came into being for our age!!! http://www.sacred-texts.com/time/origtime.htm
I'm not too certain if there were any BC's or AD's in the previous ages... but what Im certain of is that none of our major religions are exoterically related to the Egyptians, or the Greeks... and later the Romans.
So for us to know nothing of the Mystery religions accept for the linguists who can decifer the esoteric for us... gives you an idea of what is known to those who really wanna go that far, and according to a few historians, we are just scratching the surface!!!
Zionism reared it's head in the late 1800's but it was part of the masonic structures, the illuminati, the rosicrucians, the fabian society, the jesuits... etc which were all the same groups and clubs that at higher levels were one and the same thing!!!
What we need to do is understand... and as Jordan Maxwell put it - "Stand<--->Under" the roots or foundations - to be able to get a clear picture of what is really happening at this stage(Pisces) which is nearing it's end... according to esoteric beliefs... that has now become exoteric!!!
All religions give us a humanistic background, obvious shit... but then coupled with it comes the details which has been put in place... on the exoteric level... to control our mind, our ability to think for ourselves, and later to embed itself so deep into your conscience... that it creates a firewall, the stronger your faith becomes!!!
But in our terms we can call it one of the most effective virusses of the mind to date!!! - yet on the esoteric level we see a different picture... All of a sudden we here of bible codes, and other things which have never been known, like predictions about 911, shakespeare, Iraq, Saddam etc... when it was clearly put in there just to make fun of the minions/goy/animals and to show how gullible we are... and to make it worse we get those extremists who are stupid enuff to say that it shows that god wrote the bible!!!
So... if anyone has any knowledge related to the mystery religion - I'm all ears... because I do not see the point of even trying to discuss an issue we really know nothing about...
I'll try to get the Esoteric meanings to a few of those scriptures you posted Thumbz!!!
Just to give you an idea...
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Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:56 am
knockternal Kingpin
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 93 Location: Bay Area, Ca
Big Bro's worst nightmare wrote:
knockternal Kingpin wrote:
Big Bro's worst nightmare wrote:
Also have you read the satanic bible???? I have and it is nothing like what these kretins are doing to the world. It is an eye opening book and worth reading but please dont confuse it with zionism/Judaism. Also it is far farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr less evil (not even evil in my eyes) then the Talmud (book of hate)
Cheers
Chris
^^
i own one of the first copys that were printed... laveyism isnt the worship of the deity called lucifer but the philispohical belief that we are our own gods and that the things that have been labeld as "sinful" should be embraced as desires that we as humans were meant to experience...
oh wait im not supposed to know that cuz im jewish huh??? LOL
CORRECTION!!! It doesnt say that!!!! It says something on along the lines of "we all ar gods and can do whatever we like as long as the other person involved in the activity doesnt mind!!!!" big difference sunshine
Cheers
Chris
i wish you would read what ive been typing...
knockternal Kingpin wrote:
the philispohical belief that we are our own gods
Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:20 am
knockternal Kingpin
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 93 Location: Bay Area, Ca
I can aknowledge when i make one, no shame in that.
but never heard of this laveyism !!!!
We were talking about satanism yet you changed the subject
Cheers
Chris
Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:50 am
knockternal Kingpin
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 93 Location: Bay Area, Ca
Big Bro's worst nightmare wrote:
I can aknowledge when i make one, no shame in that.
but never heard of this laveyism !!!!
We were talking about satanism yet you changed the subject
Cheers
Chris
you said u had the satanic bible correct?? do you know who the author is??
