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madthumbs



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http://www.noorullah.org/2006/08/04/i-am-israel-2/ wrote:

I am Israel…
Published August 4th, 2006 in Islamic Issues and World Issues.

I am Israel - I came to a land without a people for a people without a land. Those people who happened to be here, had no right to be here, and my people showed them they had to leave or die, razing 480 Palestinian villages to the ground, erasing their history.

I am Israel - some of my people committed massacres and later became Prime Ministers to represent me. In 1948, Menachem Begin was in charge of the unit that slaughtered the inhabitants of Deir Yassin, including 100 men, women, and children. In 1953, Ariel Sharon led the slaughter of the inhabitants of Qibya, and in 1982 arranged for our allies to butcher around 2,000 in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla.

I am Israel - carved in 1948 out of 78% of the land of Palestine, dispossessing its inhabitants and replacing them with Jews from Europe and other parts of the world. While the natives whose milies lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over the world are welcome to instant citizenship.

I am Israel - in 1967, I swallowed the remaining lands of Palestine - the West Bank and Gaza - and placed their inhabitants under an oppressive military rule, controlling and humiliating every aspect of their daily lives. Eventually, they should get the message that they are not welcome to stay, and join the millions of Palestinian refugees in the shanty camps of Lebanon and Jordan.

I am Israel - I have the power to control American policy. My American Israel Public Affairs Committee can make or break any politician of its choosing, and as you see, they all compete to please me. All the forces of the world are powerless against me, including the UN as I have the American veto to block any condemnation of my war crimes. As Sharon so eloquently
phrased it, "We control America".

I am Israel - I influence American mainstream media too, and you will always find the news tailored to my favor. I have invested millions of dollars into PR representation, and CNN, New York Times, and others have been doing an excellent job of promoting my propaganda. Look at other international news sources and you will see the difference.

I am Israel - and you Palestinians want to negotiate "peace!"? But you are not as smart as me; I will negotiate, but will only let you have your municipalities while I control your borders, your water, your airspace, and anything else of importance. While we "negotiate," I will swallow your
hilltops and fill them with settlements, populated by the most extremist of my extremists, armed to the teeth. These settlements will be connected with roads you cannot use, and you will be imprisoned in your little Bantustans between them, surrounded by checkpoints in every direction.

I am Israel - with the fourth strongest army in the world, possessing nuclear weapons. How dare your children confront my oppression with stones, don't you know my soldiers won't hesitate to blow their heads off? In 17 months, I have killed 900 of you and injured 17,000, mostly civilians, and have the mandate to continue since the international community remains
silent. Ignore, as I do, the hundreds of Israeli soldiers who are now refusing to carry out my control over your lands and people; their voices of conscience will not protect you.

I am Israel - and you want freedom? I have bullets, tanks, missiles, Apaches, and F-16's, to obliterate you. I have placed your towns under siege, confiscated your lands, uprooted your trees, demolished your homes, and you still demand freedom? Don't you get the message? You will never have peace or freedom, because I am Israel

Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:53 am
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Good post, too bad it doesnt say "I am israel, i went bang and now i am palestine"
Cheers
Chris
Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:59 am
blu



Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Look I don't mean to take sides on who is suffering the most etc ... and I don't mean

to get religious, but what do you guys make of these verses from your old testament,

for those of you that are Christian.

Deuteronomy 26:1 - 29:8
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Chapter 28
1 Now, if you obey the Lord your God, to observe faithfully all His commandments which I enjoin upon you this day, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth.
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13 The Lord will make you the head, not the tail; you will always be at the top and never at the bottom — if only you obey and faithfully observe the commandments of the Lord your God that I enjoin upon you this day, 14 and do not deviate to the right or to the left from any of the commandments that I enjoin upon you this day and turn to the worship of other gods.

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Judging from how highly most of you all think of Jewish power ... how

do YOU explain these verses ?

Is the God of Israel a liar ?

Has the God of Israel been wrong ?
Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:28 pm
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Dirt Poor



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Israelites are guilty of forcing people out of their native land. When we did it to our native people, we called it manifest destiny. Same concept. People were f***d out of their homes and driven out.
Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:16 pm
blu



Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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Dirt Poor wrote:
Israelites are guilty of forcing people out of their native land. When we did it to our native people, we called it manifest destiny. Same concept. People were f***d out of their homes and driven out.



What do you think the Americans did to their native Indians ?

Some estimates put the number of Native American Indians at 10-20 million.
Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:20 pm
sharshur



Joined: 10 Sep 2006
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Well, I think that is what she is saying-- that both things are f***ed up.

Why don't you answer the facts instead of quoting verses? Tell someone who is not Jewish, not Christian, what that has to do with what has happened to the Palestinians? Are the commandments of the "Lord your God" to massacre, steal, oppress, and imprison?
Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:26 pm
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blu



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sharshur wrote:
Well, I think that is what she is saying-- that both things are f***ed up.

Why don't you answer the facts instead of quoting verses? Tell someone who is not Jewish, not Christian, what that has to do with what has happened to the Palestinians? Are the commandments of the "Lord your God" to massacre, steal, oppress, and imprison?



Let me give you one possible solution to the Middle East situation ...

22 Arab countries each take in a pro rata amount of Palestians and give them

homes and new lives.

Simple solution and can be done in a few weeks.

Problem is that the goyim don't think of helping each other, its outside their understanding

of compassion.

And YOU want to blame the Jews ???

Shocked
Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:42 pm
sharshur



Joined: 10 Sep 2006
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blu wrote:
sharshur wrote:
Well, I think that is what she is saying-- that both things are f***ed up.

Why don't you answer the facts instead of quoting verses? Tell someone who is not Jewish, not Christian, what that has to do with what has happened to the Palestinians? Are the commandments of the "Lord your God" to massacre, steal, oppress, and imprison?



Let me give you one possible solution to the Middle East situation ...

22 Arab countries each take in a pro rata amount of Palestians and give them

homes and new lives.

Simple solution and can be done in a few weeks.

Problem is that the goyim don't think of helping each other, its outside their understanding

of compassion.

And YOU want to blame the Jews ???

Shocked



Yes, I blame the Jews. And all the other westerners who have tried to control the ME for years as well. Lebanon, the country I know the most about, was nearly destroyed by its Civil War, which was caused by a lot of things, but one of the main factors and the thing that set it off was the huge influx of Palestinian refugees into a population that could not sustain them and that was not prepared in any way for a redrawing of sectarian lines. You cannot just say Here's An Arab, there's An Arab, They go together. The Arabs are not a monolith, and coming as the creation of Israel did, at a time of instability, first time indepence for many of these countries that were a part of the Ottoman Empire and then were Western colonies, they were not prepared to handle it.

The rest of the Arab world should not have to shuffle around to accomodate Israel.

Not to mention the fact that none of these countries, especially Lebanon, will be safe with Israel around eyeing their land and water.

I have been to the beautiful city of Tyre, Lebanon. It is where my husband's family has lived for hundreds of years. The people of this land are truly special. Well, Israel has always thought their border should go beyond Tyre, and the thought of my family having to leave their ancestral homes to make way for vain and murderous Jewish settlers is one thing in this world that I think I could just not handle. They do not deserve to be refugees in the Arab world, and neither did the Palestinians.
Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:17 pm
blu



Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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The Arabs are not a monolith, and coming as the creation of Israel did, at a time of instability, first time indepence for many of these countries that were a part of the Ottoman Empire and then were Western colonies, they were not prepared to handle it.

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So the Arabs are not prepared to handle it and the Jews are to be blamed ?

Did your ears hear what you just said ?

This is what I heard ... yeah well ... we could solve the problem ourselves

but blaming the Jews is easier and relieves us of our collective responsibility.
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Shocked
Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:25 pm
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sharshur



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This is not about blaming or not blaming. WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO ACCOMODATE YOU??

Answer the goddamn rest of my post.
Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:26 pm
sharshur



Joined: 10 Sep 2006
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blu wrote:


This is what I heard ... yeah well ... we could solve the problem ourselves

but blaming the Jews is easier and relieves us of our collective responsibility.
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Shocked


What problem? There was no problem until you created it!


What responsibility? Why does the rest of the Arab world have a responsibility to the Palestinians? Because you stole their land?
Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:28 pm
blu



Joined: 27 Aug 2006
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sharshur wrote:
blu wrote:


This is what I heard ... yeah well ... we could solve the problem ourselves

but blaming the Jews is easier and relieves us of our collective responsibility.
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Shocked


What problem? There was no problem until you created it!


What responsibility? Why does the rest of the Arab world have a responsibility to the Palestinians? Because you stole their land?



Absolutely no compassion for their fellow man and the Jews get blamed !

Do you see why the Jews are the chosen ?

We light up the darkness in the minds of all humanity.

Rolling Eyes
Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:31 pm
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sharshur



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I have no compassion for what fellow men?

Son, you don't know what the hell you are saying. I love Arabs, I love the Arab culture, I learn about what your people have done to them precisely because I care about them. I just don't think they should have to pay for your evil doings.


And I'm out.



Go try to sell your idea that everyone needs to make way for you to someone else, because I'm not buying it.
Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:34 pm
madthumbs



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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Mordechai Vanunu speaks with Hesham Tillawi about Israel’s Nuclear program

I think this is the one where a former Israeli ends up living among the Palestinians and describes how peaceful they are.
Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:02 pm
sharshur



Joined: 10 Sep 2006
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You know who is one of the most peaceful people I have seen in my life, bar none, with compassion written all over his face? A member of Hezbollah.
Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:24 pm
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