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Post Chemtrails? Reply with quote
ive done a little looking into chemtrails. and i see strange vapor trails in the skies around where i live every day. but all the sites i looked at dont say what they think the chemtrail is. can someone send me a good link? if not i think this is a bunch of shite...
Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:12 am
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Hi auto,

Try this link..

http://www.carnicom.com/

These are the accompanying videos (30 mins each)

http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=Aerosol%20Crimes%201of3.wmv


http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=Aerosol%20Crimes%202of3.wmv

http://www.question911.com/linkout.php?filename=Aerosol%20Crimes%203of3.wmv
Thu Sep 07, 2006 6:55 am
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Toxic Sky: KNBC Report
Toxic Sky Part 2 KNBC Los Angeles

Mentioned are Barium and Aluminum which is strongly linked to Alzheimers.

I wonder if they also use perchlorates (used in rocket fuel, air bags, aluminum production, etc) as an oxidizer also. Perchlorates could cause thyroid disease.
Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:55 am
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Top Scientists Say Man May Need to Dirty Skies to Shield against Warming

November 16, 2006 — By Charles J. Hanley, Associated Press

NAIROBI — If the sun warms the Earth too dangerously, the time may come to draw the shade.

The "shade" would be a layer of pollution deliberately spewed into the atmosphere to help cool the planet. The proposal comes from prominent scientists, among them a Nobel laureate. The reaction here at the annual U.N. conference on climate change is a mix of caution, curiosity and some resignation to such "massive and drastic" operations, as the chief U.N. climatologist describes them.

The Nobel Prize-winning scientist who first made the proposal is himself "not enthusiastic about it."

"It was meant to startle the policymakers," said Paul J. Crutzen, of Germany's Max Planck Institute for Chemistry. "If they don't take action much more strongly than they have in the past, then in the end we have to do experiments like this."

Serious people are taking Crutzen's idea seriously. This weekend at Moffett Field, California, NASA's Ames Research Center hosts a closed-door, high-level workshop on the global haze proposal and other "geoengineering" ideas for fending off climate change.

In Nairobi, meanwhile, hundreds of delegates were wrapping up a two-week conference expected to only slowly advance efforts to rein in greenhouse gases blamed for much of the 0.6-degree-Celsius (1-degree-Fahrenheit) rise in global temperatures in the past century.

The 1997 Kyoto Protocol requires modest emission cutbacks by industrial countries -- but not the United States, the biggest emitter of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases, because it rejected Kyoto. Talks on what to do after Kyoto expires in 2012 are all but bogged down.

When he published his proposal in the journal Climatic Change in August, Crutzen cited a "grossly disappointing international political response" to warming.

The Dutch climatologist, awarded a 1995 Nobel in chemistry for his work uncovering the threat to Earth's atmospheric ozone layer, suggested that balloons bearing heavy guns be used to carry sulfates high aloft and fire them into the stratosphere.

While carbon dioxide keeps heat from escaping Earth, substances such as sulfur dioxide, a common air pollutant, reflect solar radiation, helping cool the planet.

Tom Wigley, a senior U.S. government climatologist, followed Crutzen's article with a paper of his own Oct. 20 in the leading U.S. journal Science. Like Crutzen, Wigley cited the precedent of the huge volcanic eruption of Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines in 1991.

Pinatubo poured so much sulfurous debris into the stratosphere that it is believed it cooled the Earth by 0.5 degrees Celsius (0.9 degrees Fahrenheit) for about a year.

Wigley ran scenarios of stratospheric sulfate injection -- on the scale of Pinatubo's estimated 10 million tons of sulfur -- through supercomputer models of the climate, and reported that Crutzen's idea would, indeed, seem to work. Even half that amount per year would help, he wrote.

A massive dissemination of pollutants would be needed every year or two, as the sulfates precipitate from the atmosphere in acid rain.

The American scientist said a temporary shield would give political leaders more time to reduce human dependence on fossil fuels -- main source of greenhouse gases. He said experts must more closely study the feasibility of the idea and its possible effects on stratospheric chemistry.

Nairobi conference participants agreed.

"Yes, by all means, do all the research," Indian climatologist Rajendra K. Pachauri, chairman of the 2,000-scientist U.N. network on climate change, told The Associated Press.

But "if human beings take it upon themselves to carry out something as massive and drastic as this, we need to be absolutely sure there are no side effects," Pachauri said.

Philip Clapp, a veteran campaigner for emissions controls to curb warming, also sounded a nervous note, saying, "We are already engaged in an uncontrolled experiment by injecting greenhouse gases into the atmosphere."

But Clapp, president of the U.S. group National Environmental Trust, said, "I certainly don't disagree with the urgency."

American geophysicist Jonathan Pershing, of Washington's World Resources Institute, was also wary of unforeseen consequences, but said the idea might be worth considering "if down the road 25 years it becomes more and more severe because we didn't deal with the problem."

By telephone from Germany, Crutzen said that's what he envisioned: global haze as a component for long-range planning. "The reception on the whole is more positive than I thought," he said.

Pershing added, however, that reaction may hinge on who pushes the idea. "If it's the U.S., it might be perceived as an effort to avoid the problem," he said.

NASA said this weekend's California conference will examine "methods to ameliorate the likelihood of progressively rising temperatures over the next decades." Other such U.S. government-sponsored events are scheduled to follow.

Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:01 am
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United States Patent and Trademark Office
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1928963 - October 3, 1933 - Electrical System And Method
1957075 - May 1, 1934 - Airplane Spray Equipment
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2409201 - October 15, 1946 - Smoke Producing Mixture
2476171 - July 18, 1945 - Smoke Screen Generator
2480967 - September 6, 1949 - Aerial Discharge Device
2550324 - April 24, 1951 - Process For Controlling Weather
2510867 - October 9, 1951 - Method of Crystal Formation and Precipitation
2582678 - June 15, 1952 - Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes
2591988 - April 8, 1952 - Production of TiO2 Pigments - Referenced in 3899144
2614083 - October 14, 1952 - Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture
2633455 - March 31, 1953 - Smoke Generator
2688069 - August 31, 1954 - Steam Generator - Referenced in 3990987
2721495 - October 25, 1955 - Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere
2730402 - January 10, 1956 - Controllable Dispersal Device
2801322 - July 30, 1957 - Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel - Referenced in 3990987
2881335 - April 7, 1959 - Generation of Electrical Fields
2908442 - October 13, 1959 - Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds
2986360 - May 30, 1962 - Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device
2963975 - December 13, 1960 - Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet
3126155 - March 24, 1964 - Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator - Referenced in 3990987
3127107 - March 31, 1964 - Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals
3131131 - April 28, 1964 - Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions
3174150 - March 16, 1965 - Self-Focusing Antenna System
3234357 - February 8, 1966 - Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device
3274035 - September 20, 1966 - Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke
3300721 - January 24, 1967 - Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases
3313487 - April 11, 1967 - Cloud Seeding Apparatus
3338476 - August 29, 1967 - Heating Device For Use With Aerosol Containers - Referenced in 3990987
3410489 - November 12, 1968 - Automatically Adjustable Airfoil Spray System With Pump
3429507 - February 25, 1969 - Rainmaker
3432208 - November 7, 1967 - Fluidized Particle Dispenser
3441214 - April 29, 1969 - Method And Apparatus For Seeding Clouds
3445844 - May 20, 1969 - Trapped Electromagnetic Radiation Communications System
3456880 - July 22, 1969 - Method Of Producing Precipitation From The Atmosphere
3518670 June 30, 1970 - Artificial Ion Cloud
3534906 - October 20, 1970 - Control of Atmospheric Particles
3545677 - December 8, 1970 - Method of Cloud Seeding
3564253 - February 16, 1971 - System And Method For Irradiation Of Planet Surface Areas
3587966 - June 28, 1971 - Freezing Nucleation
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3659785 - December 8, 1971 - Weather Modification Utilizing Microencapsulated Material
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3722183 - March 27, 1973 - Device For Clearing Impurities From The Atmosphere
3769107 - October 30, 1973 - Pyrotechnic Composition For Generating Lead Based Smoke
3784099 - January 8, 1974 - Air Pollution Control Method
3785557 - January 15, 1974 - Cloud Seeding System
3795626 - March 5, 1974 - Weather Modification Process
3808595 - April 30, 1974 - Chaff Dispensing System
3813875 - June 4, 1974 - Rocket Having Barium Release System to Create Ion Clouds In The Upper Atmopsphere
3835059 - September 10, 1974 - Methods of Generating Ice Nuclei Smoke Particles For Weather Modification And Apparatus Therefore
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3877642 - April 15, 1975 - Freezing Nucleant
3882393 - May 6, 1975 - Communications System Utilizing Modulation of The Characteristic Polarization of The Ionosphere
3896993 - July 29, 1975 - Process For Local Modification of Fog And Clouds For Triggering Their Precipitation And For Hindering The Development of Hail Producing Clouds
3899129 - August 12, 1975 - Apparatus for generating ice nuclei smoke particles for weather modification
3899144 - August 12, 1975 - Powder contrail generation
3940059 - February 24, 1976 - Method For Fog Dispersion
3940060 - February 24, 1976 - Vortex Ring Generator
3990987 - November 9, 1976 - Smoke generator
3992628 - November 16, 1976 - Countermeasure system for laser radiation
3994437 - November 30, 1976 - Broadcast dissemination of trace quantities of biologically active chemicals
4042196 - August 16, 1977 - Method and apparatus for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics and measuring earth changes
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4035726 - July 12, 1977 - Method of controlling and/or improving high-latitude and other communications or radio wave surveillance systems by partial control of radio wave et al
4096005 - June 20, 1978 - Pyrotechnic Cloud Seeding Composition
4129252 - December 12, 1978 - Method and apparatus for production of seeding materials
4141274 - February 27, 1979 - Weather modification automatic cartridge dispenser
4167008 - September 4, 1979 - Fluid bed chaff dispenser
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4362271 - December 7, 1982 - Procedure for the artificial modification of atmospheric precipitation as well as compounds with a dimethyl sulfoxide base for use in carrying out said procedure
4402480 - September 6, 1983 - Atmosphere modification satellite
4412654 - November 1, 1983 - Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids
4415265 - November 15, 1983 - Method and apparatus for aerosol particle absorption spectroscopy
4470544 - September 11, 1984 - Method of and Means for weather modification
4475927 - October 9, 1984 - Bipolar Fog Abatement System
4600147 - July 15, 1986 - Liquid propane generator for cloud seeding apparatus
4633714 - January 6, 1987 - Aerosol particle charge and size analyzer
4643355 - February 17, 1987 - Method and apparatus for modification of climatic conditions
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4684063 - August 4, 1987 - Particulates generation and removal
4686605 - August 11, 1987 - Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
4704942 - November 10, 1987 - Charged Aerosol
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4829838 - May 16, 1989 - Method and apparatus for the measurement of the size of particles entrained in a gas
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4873928 - October 17, 1989 - Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation
4948257 - August 14, 1990 - Laser optical measuring device and method for stabilizing fringe pattern spacing
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4999637 - March 12, 1991 - Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth
5003186 - March 26, 1991 - Stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming
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5038664 - August 13, 1991 - Method for producing a shell of relativistic particles at an altitude above the earths surface
5041760 - August 20, 1991 - Method and apparatus for generating and utilizing a compound plasma configuration
5041834 - August 20, 1991 - Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be tilted
5056357 - October 15, 1991- Acoustic method for measuring properties of a mobile medium
5059909 - October 22, 1991 - Determination of particle size and electrical charge
5104069 - April 14, 1992 - Apparatus and method for ejecting matter from an aircraft
5110502 - May 5, 1992 - Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor
5156802 - October 20, 1992 - Inspection of fuel particles with acoustics
5174498 - December 29, 1992 - Cloud Seeding
5148173 - September 15, 1992 - Millimeter wave screening cloud and method
5245290 - September 14, 1993 - Device for determining the size and charge of colloidal particles by measuring electroacoustic effect
5286979 - February 15, 1994 - Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin
5296910 - March 22, 1994 - Method and apparatus for particle analysis
5327222 - July 5, 1994 - Displacement information detecting apparatus
5357865 - October 25, 1994 - Method of cloud seeding
5360162 - November 1, 1994 - Method and composition for precipitation of atmospheric water
5383024 - January 17, 1995 - Optical wet steam monitor
5425413 - June 20, 1995 - Method to hinder the formation and to break-up overhead atmospheric inversions, enhance ground level air circulation and improve urban air quality
5434667 - July 18, 1995 - Characterization of particles by modulated dynamic light scattering
5441200 - August 15, 1995 - Tropical cyclone disruption
5486900 - January 23, 1996 - Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device
5556029 - September 17, 1996 - Method of hydrometeor dissipation (clouds)
5628455 - May 13, 1997 - Method and apparatus for modification of supercooled fog
5631414 - May 20, 1997 - Method and device for remote diagnostics of ocean-atmosphere system state
5639441 - June 17, 1997 - Methods for fine particle formation
5762298 - June 9, 1998 - Use of artificial satellites in earth orbits adaptively to modify the effect that solar radiation would otherwise have on earth's weather
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5922976 - July 13, 1999 - Method of measuring aerosol particles using automated mobility-classified aerosol detector
5949001 - September 7, 1999 - Method for aerodynamic particle size analysis
5984239 - November 16, 1999 - Weather modification by artificial satellite
6025402 - February 15, 2000 - Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin
6030506 - February 29, 2000 - Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species
6034073 - March 7, 2000 - Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity
6045089 - April 4, 2000 - Solar-powered airplane
6056203 - May 2, 2000 - Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds
6110590 - August 29, 2000 - Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same
6263744 - July 24, 2001 - Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector
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6315213 - November 13, 2001 - Method of modifying weather
6382526 - May 7, 2002 - Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
6408704 - June 25, 2002 - Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus
6412416 - July 2, 2002 - Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method
6520425 - February 18, 2003 - Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers
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- http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html
Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:07 am
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Post Inquiry into spray cancer claims Reply with quote
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/4507036.stm

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Wednesday, 7 December 2005

The effects of cadmium spraying over a city in the 1960s are to be investigated after claims that it was linked with cancer of the oesophagus.
North Norfolk MP Norman Lamb was told of the decision by the Department of Health after he tabled questions to Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt.

"There are many concerns about the possible effect of cadmium spraying in Norwich and the cancer," Mr Lamb said.

Cadmium powder was sprayed over part of the city during weapons testing.

The investigation will involve the Health Protection Agency (HPA), the local Primary Care Trust, the Cancer Registry and the local Public Health Observatory.

'No link'

Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Public Health Caroline Flint informed Mr Lamb of the investigation, adding: "I am advised that it is unlikely the zinc cadmium sulphide dispersion trials have resulted in any long term health effects."

Campaigners claim that Norwich has a higher number of cases of cancer of the oesophagus than the national average.

Peter Brambleby, director of public health at the Norwich Primary Care Trust denies this and is on record as saying that he could find "no link between the spraying and this cancer".

He said: "My examination of the most up-to-date data for Norwich shows a low incidence and lower than expected incidence of oesophageal cancer."

'Simulate dissemination'

But earlier this year Mr Wyn Parry, a consultant at the Norfolk and Norwich University Hospital and a specialist in oesophageal cancer, said more research was needed on this type of cancer.

"I see patients across Norfolk and we would expect to see between 120 and 130 cases (national average) but we are seeing between 170 and 180. Perhaps 50% more than the national population."

A small quantity of cadmium was sprayed over parts of the city as part of a Ministry of Defence experiment on chemical dispersal.

The Ministry of Defence said the experiment, which its scientists say was safe, was to "simulate the airborne dissemination" of biological warfare agents in the air.


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Post Governor Schwarzenegger Backs Aerial Biochemical Spraying Reply with quote
http://www.newstarget.com/z022158.html

They made a big bugaboo of West Nile a few years ago here in the NYC area for an excuse to spray as well.
Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:54 am
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Post Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails Reply with quote


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Could a strange substance found by an Ark-La-Tex man be part of secret government testing program? That's the question at the heart of a phenomenon called "Chemtrails." In a KSLA News 12 investigation, Reporter Jeff Ferrell shows us the results of testing we had done about what's in our skies.
story by Jeff Ferrell

http://www.ksla.com/

Left side, sixth video down, watch it before they take it down...

Also see, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/ent...

Finally, PUBLIC LAW 95-79 [P.L. 95-79] TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32, SECTION 1520 "CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM" "The use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to the experiments and studies." "The Secretary of Defense [may] conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological [warfare] agents on civilian populations [within the United States]." -SOURCE- Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find Public Law 95-79. Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1882. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find Public Law 97-375.


Article is here: http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?s=7339345
Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:56 am
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They didn't actually confirm barium in chem-trails, or that chem-trails even exist. Suppose you owned a factory, and one of your smokestacks gave off barium as a by-product of manufacturing. You seize the opportunity to take advantage of conspiracy theorist whack-jobs claims about chem-trails to take the target off your back. Zionist owned media volunteers to help you out by giving the whack jobs some fuel for their fire in order to discredit their opponents as well as get them to use them as a resource. Meanwhile a possibly non-existent scapegoat takes blame for your pollution.

There are many questions unanswered: How are they doing it, and why isn't anyone credible coming forward? What exactly is being put in the chem-trail cocktail (not what's coming out of the sky or possibly trees in the back yard). What is the purpose of them? We know the US government experiments on it's soldiers, but that's localized and controlled. What reason do we have to believe that they'd experiment on citizens indiscriminately even poisoning themselves without a profit motivator?

Most of what we hear about chem-trails is likely nonsense; like how they don't disperse as fast as contrails. People are ignorant to how many different kinds of clouds we have as a result of varying pressures, temperatures, winds, etc. Contrails likely behave similarly to clouds and won't all be the same. The distance they are from the viewer can change their appearance as well.

Now I've gotten a lot of criticism for scoffing at "chem-trails". I'm not saying they don't exist, or aren't being tested in certain areas. I will say that there's a lot of nonsense floating around about them, a lot of jumping to conclusions, and a religious like belief in them. What is their motive for using them, and what is their motive for wanting us to think they're using them? It could be a bit of both.
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What is their motive for using them, and what is their motive for wanting us to think they're using them? It could be a bit of both.


Don't really know the motive. Too many people in rural areas complain about it though. Could it be to get them into crowded cities perhaps?
I guess that is the reason for the question mark at the end of this title for this thread.

Here is an old report from the BBC on cadmium:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/4507036.stm

This website has some of the effects on some of these chemicals:
http://sciencelab.com
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The German Military are exposed spraying Chemtrails. This is a Mainstream Media Exposé. Here is the proof that brings this subject to the realm of 'Conspiracy Fact'


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Suddenly a meteorological radar registers the presence of a cloud -- but it's not clear how did this happen? The answer seems to be that this was the result of a military experiment. What are these mysterious trails and what is their purpose? We will try to find out...

The military planes of the German Federal Army are manipulating our climate; this is what the weather researchers are presuming and their suspicions are confirmed.

Sinister clouds, up to 350 km long, appear all of a sudden on the radar, but only on the meteorological radars. The first time it happened was in the summer of 2005. and then in March of 2006. The German army has admitted having war exercises towards the borders with the Netherlands.

For Karsten Brandt, meteorologist, this is the answer to the enigma:

KARSTEN BRANDT -- THE FEDERAL ARMY IS MANIPULATING THE METEOROGICAL MAPS

We can state with a 97% certainty that we have on our hands chemical trails (chemtrails) comprised by fine dust containing polymers and metals, used to disrupt radar signals.

This is their main purpose, but I was surprised that this artificial cloud was so wide-spread. The radar images are stunning considering the needed tons of dispersed elements -- although, the federal army claims that only small amounts of material were propagated. The military heads claim that the substances used are not harmful.

- The registers report emissions of chemtrails at low altitudes... --

In the United States of America there are protest after protest for many years now, against these military operations and now people are mobilizing in Germany as well. Per example JOHANNES REMMEL of the Greens.

It's obvious that enormous regions are being polluted with clandestine actions, but all of this has to be made public. The government must provide explanations to the unsuspecting population.

Yet the story continues: in the following three weeks the instruments register other activities of suspicious aircrafts, similar to the previously mentioned, above other areas of Germany. Meanwhile the satellited imagery is clearly counterfeited by the military.

From our observations we can conclude that they fly over the regions of Westfalia, Bielefeld, the Ruhr zone to Saxony and Hamburg, forming a really dense layer of artificial cloud-cover.

WEATHER MANIPULATION IS PROHIBITED

After the first discovery Karsten Brandt has filed a legal charge against unknowns for weather manipulation, based on his careful verifications and data gathered by radar through which he documented every anomalous cloud formation.
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Thanks to CowboyBebop2012 for English translation.
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I don't know if it exactly makes it fact until they are caught red handed in the act with a clear video. However they have openly admitted to owning the weather so it may very well be a bit of truth they occasionally feed us to see if we are paying attention.


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Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:33 am
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Post X-15 Space Record. 1962/07/19 (1962) Reply with quote
Most of the nuts want us to believe that most contrails are actually chemtrails. Here's some persistent contrails of the past:

X-15 Space Record. 1962/07/19 (1962)

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1) B-52 with X-15 takes off from Edwards AFB, drops X-15 and burns for 81 seconds, pictures from space, landing by Major White, flew at 3700 mph, 4 pilots get Collier trophy at White House. Plane Flown 59-mile Mark.
2) Thor rocket launches Echo balloon
3) new HEW Secy Selabrizi replacing Ribicoff
4) Ike trip abroad as private citizen on liner Queen Elizabeth
5) Algeria feud between leaders
(partial newsreel)


Note the key: "altitude"
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Post NBC news: Chemtrails over California Reply with quote


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They've been doing it already. They always deny and then finally admit to it. Too bad the conspiracy quacks always add a bit of paranoia to discredit the facts.
Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:12 am
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More videos: http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?s=chemtrails

I like how they use a story that's not confirmed, and show a bunch of nutter sites.
Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:24 pm
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Post Is Human Tampering Causing Extreme Weather? Reply with quote
http://en.epochtimes.com/news/8-1-16/64150.html

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Jan 16, 2008
By Martin Croucher

Humans tampering with the atmosphere may be causing extreme weather patterns, experts believe.

They believe that the debate on climate change has ignored the role of environmental manipulation projects.

Artificial manipulation of the climate is nothing new. During the Vietnam war, the US military used cloud seeding techniques to cause torrential rain and disrupt enemy supply lines.

Last month, Chinese media reported that the Communist party was preparing 'rain-prevention techniques' to be used on the opening and closing ceremonies of the Beijing Olympics this year.

But some experts believe that new technology can enable governments to manipulate climate patterns globally for military use.

Extreme weather patterns in recent years, such as record numbers of hurricanes, floods and droughts across the world, may have been the result of such technology being tested, they claim.

Without concrete evidence to support them, such claims to many remain little more than a hot topic for conspiracy theorists. But there are things about the various atmospheric research projects run by the US military that that do not stack up.

The High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) based in Gokona, Alaska, an array of transmitters pointed toward the sky, is claimed to be a scientific endeavour for studying the properties and behaviour of the upper atmosphere (ionosphere).

It consists of an 'Ionospheric Research Instrument', which fires a beam of energy at the upper atmosphere, and a series of other antenna for monitoring changes.

But to many the project resembles a 'death ray' with all the hallmarks of a James Bond film. Canadian economist and policy adviser Dr Michel Chossudovsky calls it a "weapon of mass destruction".

The project is funded by the U.S. airforce and navy, and on its website claims that a key purpose is to "enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and defence purposes"

The idea is to magnify communications signals so they can be received by receivers on submarines and underground bunkers.

But, according to some, the facility also possesses the capability to knock out communications in a wide area of the world, by making modifications to the ionosphere.

If the facility has been used for this purpose it is doubtful that we would ever find out. In 1977 the U.S. was signatory to an international convention which banned "military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects".

It defined "environmental modification techniques" as "any technique for changing – through the deliberate manipulation of natural processes—the dynamics, composition or structure of the earth, including its biota, lithosphere, hydrosphere and atmosphere, or of outer space".

However, according to Dr Choussudovsky, the scientific establishment has since been mute on the possibility that unusual weather patterns may have arisen from artificial manipulation.

"This is one of the most powerful weapons in the world but no-one mentions it at the policy level. This has potentially devastating consequences for the environment, yet no one dares to raise it when they meet on the global climate agenda.

"This is a weapon of mass destruction in the truest sense of the word. It could be used to interfere with the climate in a wide area without anyone knowing anything about it."

According to radiation expert Dr Rosalie Bertell, HAARP has the facility for disrupting weather patterns.

She said: "I believe that this is an attempt to influence the course of the Vapor Rivers [streams of vapour carried in the lower atmosphere], five each in the northern and southern hemisphere, which bring rain from the tropics into the temperate zones.

"The course of these rivers, when changed, can cause drought or flooding. It is also likely that the HAARP manipulations of the ionosphere can influence the shape of the jet streams, which in turn have effects on temperature and local weather patterns."

Her research is corroborated by Nick Begich, an author and associate of Dr Bernard Eastlund, one of the figures behind the creation of HAARP.

According to Dr Choussudovsky, he owned a patent (US No: 4,686,605) entitled "Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth's Atmosphere, Ionosphere and/or Magnetosphere", under a contract with Atlantic Ritchfield Corporation (ARCO), whose subsidiary Advanced Power Technologies Inc (APTI), completed the first stage of the HAARP project.

The Epoch Times was unable to officially verify the ownership of the patent.

There has however been little official indication that HAARP is to be used for military purposes. Conspiracy theorists point to an extract from the Air University of the US Air Force, AF 2025 Final Report—a fanciful document of future technologies—as evidence.

It reads: "U.S. aerospace forces [will] 'own the weather' by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies to war-fighting applications ... From enhancing friendly operations or disrupting those of the enemy via small-scale tailoring of natural weather patterns to complete dominance of global communications and counterspace control, weather-modification offers the war fighter a wide-range of possible options to defeat or coerce an adversary."

However it is doubtful that the document, readily available online, carries any official indication of current policy.

A spokesman for the U.S. department for Defence was unavailable to comment on the accusation at the time of going to print.

Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:57 pm
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