Illegal Aliens

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	madthumbs wrote:
	If you're paying taxes: you're supporting terrorism.

You bet

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Oooh That Tickles! wrote:

You think IAs benefit YOU? Do YOU own a construction company, landscape company, cleaning business? I don't. And if I ever lose my job in Corporate America, I can no longer go make the same money starting the next day framing houses. Before 2000, I could have still done that. Now, I'd be up against thousands of short dark men that speak another language and work for half price. I'm just not seeing the upside for the average Joe.

I feel the same way Tickles. Like McDonalds’, at one time it was part-time work for our teens, now it’s a Mexican Adult Job. That’s BS as I see it.

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Yeah! Send them back to Mexico where they can make cheap clothes, and products that we can buy with money from our overpaid jobs!

Then when your overpaid jobs move to Mexico; you'll be crossing the border and filling their shoes.

Many of the people I've worked with in factories up here aren't even worthy of being paid, yet they have great lifestyles thanks to unions, and nepotism.

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I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet, Mad Thumbs. And I see no reason to aid and abet any policy put in place by our enemy. Rather we should expose the anti-American policies and those who craft them.

You sound like you are endorsing Globalism. Tell me it isn't so!

Diversity is Hate.
Multiculturalism is Hate.
And who is the object of that Hate?
You are.

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This lecture makes some good points on the topic:

Immigration by the Numbers

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2_4GHz wrote:

OK, here are a few facts that most do not know about the Illegal workers. I will add, this is personal knowledge, I compete with them everyday.
Fact---Most Illegals will not work for a CHECK, they want CASH.
Fact---Most will not work for you for LESS than 10$ hour cash.
Fact---Most will not do the job you wont do for the same pay you receive. Which I might add is below 10$ and TAXED.
Fact---Yes they work hard as a group. Add ONE white dude and he does all the work. I should know.
Fact---They don't need the High school education required of ME, to do the same job.
Fact---They are not required to PASS a DRUG test to be hired,as I AM.
Fact---They receive all the hand-outs most Americans complained about the African American getting,and yet they DON'T COMPLAIN.
Fact---I lost a job in March of this year for asking to many questions of my employer.
Fact---Thank GOD[which ever is your's] that my Father and uncles and aunts and so-on, are dead. They would really be pissed as most their age are,at how this country in which they built is turning a blind eye to this Invasion.

Alien Invasion.....it's not just Mexicans

It's true. I worked with mexican immigrants on nearly every job site I have been to. They all got payed the same or more than me per hour and in cash. They work fast so they are not as careful when they do a job. also, they piss where they're not supposed to. They are not drug tested, they are not required to wear safety gear (hard hat and glasses) at all times like american workers are. Immigrant men get paid better than american female workers in skilled trades. My starting wage as an electrical apprentice with no experience: 7.50 per hour. Starting wage for a male electrical apprentice with no experience: 8.50 or better. Starting wage for male immigrant laborer:8.00 or better. I have noticed that there aren't any female immigrant workers and If there were, I'd hate to see their wages.

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	madthumbs wrote:
	Yeah! Send them back to Mexico where they can make cheap clothes, and products that we can buy with money from our overpaid jobs! Then when your overpaid jobs move to Mexico; you'll be crossing the border and filling their shoes. Many of the people I've worked with in factories up here aren't even worthy of being paid, yet they have great lifestyles thanks to unions, and nepotism.

That sounds exactly like what is happening with China & India!
Thousands of aussie jobs have gone walkabout thanks to so called globalism. I work for a textiles supply company and we have had over 80 customers this year shut up shop because they cannot compete with all the cheap shit from overseas. It is bloody pathetic how we are supposed to sit back and let countries like India, China and Mexico swallow up all our jobs just so big companies can make things dirt cheap. In Australia it's bad enough our jobs are going overseas but then to rub salt into the wound, they are bringing out plane loads of Chinese "guest" workers who will work for less and in poorer conditions than the locals would. And the goverment uses the excuse that people here won't do the work..Bullshit! I know many who would be willing to learn a trade etc, but does the government give these people a helping hand? NO they don't cause it's cheaper to bring in foreign slave labour. Our countries are going to the dogs thanks to zionism and their failed experiment, known as mulitcultaralism that creates division and ghettoes and racism on a massive scale. Try bringing foreign guest workers into Israel and see how far you get!

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	Oooh That Tickles! wrote:
	You sound like you are endorsing Globalism. Tell me it isn't so!

Actually I'd love to see small communities run similar to The Village minus the creatures. I'd prefer that there be no government or boundaries. Sadly this probably isn't possible.

I haven't really pondered globalism outside of it's implication to Christians.

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	Diversity is Hate. Multiculturalism is Hate. And who is the object of that Hate? You are.

-Doesn't that sound pro-globalist?

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Aren't we all immigrants to this world?

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Remember the Montana Freeman? http://www.freedomdomain.com/freemen.html
They came close to overthrowing the entire system. They had over 1 million people with them; their movement spread like wildfire. They made mistakes, but perhaps there is still something we can learn from them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montana_Freemen

And as for removing unneeded invaders, see Isabella & Ferdinand of Spain. They got the job done against the Moors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_of_Castile
http://www.white-history.com/hwr23.htm

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Dirt Poor wrote:

2_4GHz wrote:

OK, here are a few facts that most do not know about the Illegal workers. I will add, this is personal knowledge, I compete with them everyday.
Fact---Most Illegals will not work for a CHECK, they want CASH.
Fact---Most will not work for you for LESS than 10$ hour cash.
Fact---Most will not do the job you wont do for the same pay you receive. Which I might add is below 10$ and TAXED.
Fact---Yes they work hard as a group. Add ONE white dude and he does all the work. I should know.
Fact---They don't need the High school education required of ME, to do the same job.
Fact---They are not required to PASS a DRUG test to be hired,as I AM.
Fact---They receive all the hand-outs most Americans complained about the African American getting,and yet they DON'T COMPLAIN.
Fact---I lost a job in March of this year for asking to many questions of my employer.
Fact---Thank GOD[which ever is your's] that my Father and uncles and aunts and so-on, are dead. They would really be pissed as most their age are,at how this country in which they built is turning a blind eye to this Invasion.

Alien Invasion.....it's not just Mexicans

It's true. I worked with mexican immigrants on nearly every job site I have been to. They all got payed the same or more than me per hour and in cash. They work fast so they are not as careful when they do a job. also, they piss where they're not supposed to. They are not drug tested, they are not required to wear safety gear (hard hat and glasses) at all times like american workers are. Immigrant men get paid better than american female workers in skilled trades. My starting wage as an electrical apprentice with no experience: 7.50 per hour. Starting wage for a male electrical apprentice with no experience: 8.50 or better. Starting wage for male immigrant laborer:8.00 or better. I have noticed that there aren't any female immigrant workers and If there were, I'd hate to see their wages.

there are female immigrant workers... the "nannies" that take care of laze sexual intercourse children are usually illegal sexual intercourse mexicans... they also clean rich ppls houses...

as for the work system, it sux either way and isnt fair nomatter how u look at it...

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	Benjamin Freedman wrote:
	to my knowledge most of these "illegals" are working more hard than "natives". don't they deserve to have better life than the ones working less? General problem of such countries is that "natives" don't wanna do certain jobs. That is reality and instead of facing it, people want to throw all "illegals" away. I wonder how will toilets in USA look like end if all illegals left after one week

I take it you don't clean your toilets were ever you are from. Most people in America are not born with a silver spoon in our mouths. My toilet would be just as clean as it is now and same with the ones I clean at my job.

Yep they work real hard for minimum wage or less. Isn't the average daily wage $0.60 cents in parts of Mexico? Americans will do any job. ANY JOB!!!! A friend of mine scrapes decomposing excrement and toxic wast infused sewer sludge but gets payed $17/hour!!! I wish I made that much. I'd pull the gas valve at at a concentration camp for $17/hour, I Would clean a bio weapons clean room for $17/hour. Americans eat raw cow testicles, eyeballs and horse penis for the Meir chance of a small cash prize. So don't preach to me about jobs Americans wouldn't do. That statement implies that Americans make too much money. The import of Illegal labor and the export of jobs is holding down wages here. Everybody's wages!! The population has gone from 200,000,000 to 300,00,000 in no time because of illegals. The number of illegals in America is way higher then the numbers on TV. Or perhaps you would prefer us to tear down all our houses and put up huts. Huts we can afford on minimum wage.

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Can anyone here explain why, based strictly upon where we're born, we should conform to a caste system? I'm American; I don't feel more entitled to a job here than anyone else. If the Mexicans, Indians, Chinese, Vietnamese, and Thai can live off of lower wages, what does it tell you about the wages that Americans have become so accustomed to? The answer is simple; they're outrageous.

I believe in the furthering of society through culling the weak; this means that the same members of society that perform better than the rest under pristine conditions must be ready, able and willing to perform equally well under lesser conditions, lest a more flexible counterpart prove to be more valuable in the long term... personally I see both as being valuable in their own way. Regardless of my personal opinions, the facts are as follows:

1) American wages are falling due to increased competition and an economy that has been losing ground in the import/export ratio for 40+ years
2) People both inside and outside America are willing to work for a wage that follows supply/demand principles to survive
3) Those that cannot adapt to the changing global economy by either hiring the "slave labor", becoming more valuable than a "slave" possibly could be through education and sheer skill, or working for a wage lower than that of their ancestors will be swept aside.

It is therefore undeniably true that despite the futile attempt to stop immigrants(read: real human beings) from crossing the borders into this country, the economy will shift and jobs that were once considered careers will become stepping stones. Things are already changing; it's now a matter of who is most survivable under adverse conditions.

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Are we forgetting that the Southwestern borders of THIS country were created by illegal immigration/wrongful occupation, all in the name of manifest destiny?

The statue of liberty does not say "give me your educated white settlers only looking for documented work at a rate of pay higher than the prevailing minimum wage." now does it? For those who need a reminder, here is what it really reads:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me.
I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

And sure, cutting aid to Israel might be a way to channel more funding into the immigration "problem," but how much more shall we spend when the current two-billion-dollar-a-year enforcement effort is failing miserably? I would be much more satisfied if the money that is currently being wasted on border containment were used to educate these people to fill currently understaffed job fields (such as nursing).

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	And sure, cutting aid to Israel might be a way to channel more funding into the immigration "problem," but how much more shall we spend when the current two-billion-dollar-a-year enforcement effort is failing miserably?

I didn't say the money could be used for enforcement. Wink