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madthumbs



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Ashkenazi
n : a Jew of eastern European or German descent

-- From WordNet (r) 2.0

Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:35 pm
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Mystica



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For the record, Ashkenazi means "German".


That's a well known fact, he was still a Zionist Jew. Zionist has nothing to do with ethnicity today.

Hitler led Germany into war and he was also Austrian just like Freud.

Ashkenazi Jews have blurred the boundries of 'Jewishness' just by inter-marriages of ethnic groups ... they originally made up only 3% of all Jews, today they are about 90% and are the major players in world domination.

Ashkenazi is a German word and the implications of that is the 'nazi' in them.

Shalom!
Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:45 am
Aeon



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Ashkenazi
n : a Jew of eastern European or German descent

-- From WordNet (r) 2.0


Ashkenaz is a Hebrew word for Germany.
Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:09 am
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This retuwel wound't be legal if it wern't for the fact that jews do it.
Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:30 pm
madthumbs



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A new study in the British Journal of Urology International shows that men with normal, intact penises enjoy more sexual sensitivity — as much as four times more — than those who have been circumcised. Circumcising slices off more of a male's sensitivity than is normally present in all ten fingertips.

(PRWEB) March 22, 2007 -- In every site tested, intact men have as much or more fine-touch skin sensitivity on their penis and foreskin than a man who has been circumcised. Circumcision removes the most sensitive portions of the penis.

This new study demonstrates what we have suspected for decades, that circumcision’s result — if not its intent — is reduced sexual pleasure for men. As such, it is a violation of a male’s right to bodily integrity. In large part, female circumcision does the same; even the mildest forms remove the most sensitive portions of the female genitalia. Females in the USA and many other countries are protected by law from all forms of genital cutting.

The mistaken belief behind circumcision is that it is cleaner, healthier, protects against disease, and will make males more tractable in a society.

Because circumcision has such a drastic effect on sexuality later in life, no infant or child should ever experience a non-therapeutic circumcision.

Parents should not be allowed to control their son’s level of sexual sensitivity because of personal bias or prejudice, just as no parent should be allowed to request for their son or daughter any other sensitivity-reducing surgery; for example, eye surgery that would limit vision from color to black-and-white.

In addition, circumcised men, with one-fourth the sensitivity of intact men, might decline to wear further-desensitizing condoms. Some may consider themselves “safe” because of circumcision, adding to their determination to have sex without a condom.

Adult men who want circumcision for themselves should be advised per proper informed consent that penile sensitivity will be reduced on average by a factor of four. Men should also be advised that circumcision will not prevent the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV/AIDS.


http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/3/prweb512999.htm
http://mediaserver.prweb.com/pdfdownload/512999/pr.pdf
Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:15 am
debus



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Circumcision is wrong and it should be illegal to perform this operation on children. The people who make their sons undergo circumcision are ignorant or brainwashed or sheep. I know many people who got their sons done when they were infants just because their friends had their sons done. People are really herd animals in my opinion. Also I wonder if there is not some Jewish influence in this becoming fashionable. The Jews like people emulating their customs, makes them feel superior.
Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:40 am
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debus wrote:
Circumcision is wrong and it should be illegal to perform this operation on children. The people who make their sons undergo circumcision are ignorant or brainwashed or sheep. I know many people who got their sons done when they were infants just because their friends had their sons done. People are really herd animals in my opinion. Also I wonder if there is not some Jewish influence in this becoming fashionable. The Jews like people emulating their customs, makes them feel superior.


I agree with you 100% mate! People jump up and down over mulesing and other barbaric pratices carried out on animals. Yet they see nothing wrong with getting the top of your knob cut off..very sick.
Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:09 pm
Mystica



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I agree with you 100% mate! People jump up and down over mulesing and other barbaric pratices carried out on animals. Yet they see nothing wrong with getting the top of your knob cut off..very sick.[/quote]

Every argument here has been from a personal lose of PLEASURE ... today circumcision can be done relatively free of pain, many children have to bear much worse painful procedures in the cause of HEALTH than for pleasure.

Not one anti-circumcision message has considered that an un-circumcised penis can cause "cervical cancer" in their partners.

F*@K the females, let them die of cancer .... just so long as we get MORE pleasure!!!

PLEASURE is pitted against HYGEINE, CANCER, and other HEALTH issues in this thread ... Pleasure is a poor excuse for caring for infants ... Try weighing up the facts rather than being HYSTERICAL over a 'percieved' increase of pleasure. Look up the meaning of HYSTER.
Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:27 am
madthumbs



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Every argument here has been from a personal lose of PLEASURE


No: it's also barbaric, unnecessary, and ignorant of the foreskin owner's CHOICE!

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today circumcision can be done relatively free of pain


You speak for babies that have to endure the bracing, the subsequent raw flesh and the many more nerve endings per square inch than an adult? You a woman who has a higher pain threshold than a man?

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many children have to bear much worse painful procedures in the cause of HEALTH than for pleasure.


No, it's for the cause of quackery and money.

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Not one anti-circumcision message has considered that an un-circumcised penis can cause "cervical cancer" in their partners.


No, we considered that a less sensitive more abrasive circumsized penis would do more damage to a vagina which could lead to cancer or other problems. You actually think foreskin causes cancer?

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F*@K the females, let them die of cancer .... just so long as we get MORE pleasure!!!


You don't have to have sex FOR PLEASURE from a man with foreskin. YOU have a choice. You deny us the choice of a foreskin or not.

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PLEASURE is pitted against HYGEINE, CANCER, and other HEALTH issues in this thread


Your selfish, ignorant, opinion.

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Pleasure is a poor excuse for caring for infants


You're the only one here showing lack of concern for infants!

Go have your clit removed! It MIGHT cause cancer, and only brings a little pleasure. It could also make men feel incompetent for not pleasuring you and they MIGHT kill themselves over it. You should have had it done as an infant so you wouldn't have a choice but to be healthier, but I guess your parents didn't CARE about your health.
Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:13 am
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my roomate is uncircumcized. Maybe I could conduct a test...

He will have unprotected, premarital intercourse with some lucky gal. the next day we will circumsize him then he can have unprotected, premarital intercourse with this lucky gal one more time. From there, he can tell us which was better.

cheers
Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:09 am
Mystica



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No: it's also barbaric, unnecessary, and ignorant of the foreskin owner's CHOICE!

No more barbaric than spinal taps, bone marrow harvesting for a sibling, making a child blind with ultra violet treatment for Jaundice ad infinitum.

Your CHOICE of words speak loud and clear.

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You speak for babies that have to endure the bracing, the subsequent raw flesh and the many more nerve endings per square inch than an adult? You a woman who speak as a higher pain threshold than a man?

Again your words speak loud of your real mindset ... as a man careless of truth, and caring for his own pleasure more.

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No, it's for the cause of quackery and money.

That's the image you want to promote, and fail miserably.

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No, we considered that a less sensitive more abrasive circumsized penis would do more damage to a vagina which could lead to cancer or other problems. You actually think foreskin causes cancer?

YOU consider? Not the medical evidence? ... I had an UN-circumcised partner for 33 years ... I just cured my Cervical cancer. I guess I'm allowed the right to speak as I find.

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You don't have to have sex FOR PLEASURE from a man with foreskin. YOU have a choice. You deny us the choice of a foreskin or not.

No we have sex for CONCEPTION, to have babies we love with all our heart and soul, and for the pleasure of the PERSON you love. YOU deny women the CHOICE. Women give their love and provide pleasure out of love and selflessness. YOU do not provide either. (I'm not speaking for ALL men. Fortunately the men I have encountered have been wiser, more caring, and more sensitive than you.

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PLEASURE is pitted against HYGEINE, CANCER, and other HEALTH issues in this thread

Your selfish, ignorant, opinion.

And it's not selfish to not consider the health and welfare of a partner over a little more PLEASURE???

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You're the only one here showing lack of concern for infants!

Go have your clit removed! It MIGHT cause cancer, and only brings a little pleasure. It could also make men feel incompetent for not pleasuring you and they MIGHT kill themselves over it. You should have had it done as an infant so you wouldn't have a choice but to be healthier, but I guess your parents didn't CARE about your health.

Ah yes! Your standard rationale, and a stupid response, taking everything our of proportion and a faulty argument. Is that what this argument is all about? You are unable to pleasure your partner? Even a man with a four inch penis (foreskin or not) can pleasure his partner if he knows the right MOVES, and has the right mental attitude, it has NOTHING to do with foreskin or lack of it.

A woman's clitoris doesn't enter the man's body, and it doesn't affect a mans health.

PS Not all men have the same pleasure responses, some men have diminished pleasure that stems from psychological problems and an inflated image of what other men tell them. It's a man thing.

You would likely have the same problem if you were un-cicumcised because then you would have been listening to the circumcised men bragging of the pleasure they were getting, not to mention their SUCCESS with the ladies.
Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:21 am
Mystica



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imamonstertruck wrote:
my roomate is uncircumcized. Maybe I could conduct a test...

He will have unprotected, premarital intercourse with some lucky gal. the next day we will circumsize him then he can have unprotected, premarital intercourse with this lucky gal one more time. From there, he can tell us which was better.

cheers


LOL! I gather you haven't sat down to compare notes with him then? ... maybe a pleasure monitor attached to his brain would work just as well.

But I do hope you're not feeling inadequate because of a reduced prepuce like some others here?

It's not what you've got it's what you do with it ... and the rest of your bod, as well as a healthy attitude towards sex and it's pleasures ... and the responsibility it carries.

I suspect this argement is being waged because of the "Jewish hate" thing rather than from pure logic and rational thought.
Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:34 am
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Oh come on Mystica!

Is this thread the ONLY place you can have something to say?

It's almost like you enjoy arguing.
Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:15 am
madthumbs



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I just cured my Cervical cancer. I guess I'm allowed the right to speak as I find.


Then you know it had nothing to do with circumcision and more to do with your diet. You use it as a defense for the horrific choice you made which imposed on someone else's body!

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Women give their love and provide pleasure out of love and selflessness.


The sexist speaks.

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YOU do not provide either. (I'm not speaking for ALL men. Fortunately the men I have encountered have been wiser, more caring, and more sensitive than you.


Funny.. I don't see a single man siding with you here. In fact, many of us think you're a monstrous bitch that will never learn.

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And it's not selfish to not consider the health and welfare of a partner over a little more PLEASURE???


What gives you the right to mutilate someone else's body making that decision for them? If circumcision is so great men would be having it done later in life, but they don't.
Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:16 am
madthumbs



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Ceara wrote:
Oh come on Mystica!

Is this thread the ONLY place you can have something to say?

It's almost like you enjoy arguing.


I think she's trying to justify the horrible thing she's done.
Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:17 am
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