Circumcision

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Actually I know a guy who is happy with the fact that he's circumsized. And he's my honey. He's happy with the way his body is and doesn't see a need to change anything. I'm pretty darn happy with it too. lol

I don't have any children, but if I did, I surely would not allow the procedure. It would hurt me to see the baby in pain... ya know, the whole empathy thing. I can't even stand it when the doctor pokes the heel of a newborn for a blood test. Poor kid just came out of a nice warm comfy spot only to be poked and prodded in a cold sterile environment. It's bad enough being born as it is. lol Maybe that's why some of us have certain phobias. *shrug*

What totally grosses me out is when the Jews do it, the guy performing the procedure ends up sucking the blood/penis. ugh.. disgusting. It's like..... almost a miniature ritual for some sick purposes. Why not just use something else to absorb the blood? Why suck it?? Then all we hear about today is young boys (seems like more than girls) are used for kinky sex rituals and sodomizing. There is this fascination with the penis and young males. I don't understand it.

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madthumbs wrote:

	Ceara wrote:
	Oh come on Mystica! Is this thread the ONLY place you can have something to say? It's almost like you enjoy arguing.

I think she's trying to justify the horrible thing she's done.

And just what is it I'm supposed to have done... read what I have said ... then tell me what it is I HAVE DONE.

You read what you want to read and even then you get confused. I had nothing to do with my sons circumcisions ... just as most women who's sons were circumcised 40 odd years ago had nothing to do with what happened. Crying about what is in the past is a useless exercise ... it's the future you should worry about.

My Father was circumcised as a grown man and he never whinged like you do. Not only did he not whinge about it he didn't complain about loss of pleasure either.

Get over it and get off my back.

And to you CEARA "Why are you getting involved if not to argue?" Take a long look at this site and you'll see for yourself I do not argue unless someone goes out of their way to provoke and insult me, and I've been involved in many topics besides this one ... I give as good as I get only when someone attacks me. And I don't crawl or grovel at anyones feet to get liked. I say what has to be said and I defend my honour. If you don't like that then don't get involved.

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Why? Because you point fingers and blame and that is not productive.

You don't allow others to have their own opinions and then attempt to shoot them down. What do you expect? For them to take it laying down and not fight back?

You are doing the equivalent of pushing a wild animal into a corner, and then getting mad because it fights back.

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	In men with low-risk sexual behaviour and monogamous female partners, circumcision makes no difference to the risk of cervical cancer. http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2003/sep/vol49-sep-critical-1.asp

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Aeon wrote:

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	In men with low-risk sexual behaviour and monogamous female partners, circumcision makes no difference to the risk of cervical cancer. http://www.cfpc.ca/cfp/2003/sep/vol49-sep-critical-1.asp

You should have included the rest of what this report says instead of the little bits that suit your views.....

Analysis of methodology

This paper pools a group of case-control studies and has the usual limitations of retrospective studies. By starting with the outcome of cervical cancer and HPV infection and looking back to see whether circumcision was an associated factor, unknown confounding variables might not have been taken into account. Still, I think this is a good epidemiologic study. Numbers of subjects and controls are large, and variables known to be related to HPV and cervical cancer have been measured.

Participants were not from Canada and, therefore, might not be similar to our own population. Circumcision was self-reported: accuracy was assessed by medical examination of 43% of the men and confirmed in 95% of those. The findings in this study are consistent with those of other studies that show an association between male circumcision and reduced risk of HIV infection and other common sexually transmitted diseases.

Application to clinical practice

Before reading this study, I usually told parents that there is no medical reason for circumcision and that it is based on parental preference. This paper has made me rethink that stance. If we could predict at birth that a baby boy was likely to engage in high-risk sexual behaviour, I might recommend circumcision. We are also reminded of the protective effect against cervical cancer of low-risk sexual behaviour. A cohort study that looked prospectively at circumcised and uncircumcised boys would help clarify any cause-effect relationship between circumcision and cervical cancer. This would take many years to accomplish. In the meantime, the debate about circumcision continues.

Bottom line

* Male circumcision is associated with reduced risk of genital HPV infection in men whether or not their female partners have cervical HPV or cervical cancer.
* Circumcision is associated with reduced risk of cervical cancer in women with high-risk sexual partners.

* In men with low-risk sexual behaviour and monogamous female partners, circumcision makes no difference to the risk of cervical cancer.

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So basically we should all be butchered so you can feel safer being a slut?

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Mystica wrote:

	imamonstertruck wrote:
	my roomate is uncircumcized. Maybe I could conduct a test... He will have unprotected, premarital intercourse with some lucky gal. the next day we will circumsize him then he can have unprotected, premarital intercourse with this lucky gal one more time. From there, he can tell us which was better. cheers

LOL! I gather you haven't sat down to compare notes with him then? ... maybe a pleasure monitor attached to his brain would work just as well.

But I do hope you're not feeling inadequate because of a reduced prepuce like some others here?

It's not what you've got it's what you do with it ... and the rest of your bod, as well as a healthy attitude towards sex and it's pleasures ... and the responsibility it carries.

I suspect this argement is being waged because of the "Jewish hate" thing rather than from pure logic and rational thought.

I was merely being silly. He enjoy's having a hood on his penis.

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	madthumbs wrote:
	So basically we should all be butchered so you can feel safer being a slut?

Or so she doesn't have to worry so much about her partner's slutting around... In either case, it seems more sane to go after the slut behavior than destroying tissue.

If you want to get right down to it, we could avoid all sorts of diseases if we just avoided sex altogether. People like Mystica could create a movement to stop sex completely, and reproduce only via artificial means.

It's also interesting to note that a completely faithful person who has a completely faithful spouse are still going to get the 'snip' if Mystica gets her way. In her mind, it's better to be safe than sorry -- since she cannot possibly know whether an infant will eventually grow up ethical or marry an ethical spouse.

Bacteria and Viruses are not created ex nihilo. If you stay faithful to your partner, there are all sorts of benefits. We shouldn't condone hacking off flesh simply because some, perhaps even a majority, can't stay faithful.

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Mystica wrote:

You should have included the rest of what this report says instead of the little bits that suit your views.....
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Bottom line

* Male circumcision is associated with reduced risk of genital HPV infection in men whether or not their female partners have cervical HPV or cervical cancer.
* Circumcision is associated with reduced risk of cervical cancer in women with high-risk sexual partners.

* In men with low-risk sexual behaviour and monogamous female partners, circumcision makes no difference to the risk of cervical cancer.

Look, don't be so damn stupid and so damn blind. Using your logic, we might think it wise to ban war in order to stop legionaire's disease. You need to find the underlying causes -- in this case, bacteria/viruses. I don't think it's ethical to hack up a young boy's penis based on a presumption that the young boy is going to be unfaithful to his eventual spouse, or that his eventual spouse will be unfaithful to him.

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Since she's now banned, I feel compelled to speak for her.

It's hygienic, more appealing, makes men better lovers, it's painless, and many times necessary!

Anyone seen that Ilsa movie? It's an older movie and pretty sickening/ frightening. I thought it was a porn when it started playing (I didn't know what it was when I downloaded it). Mystica reminded me of her soooo much.

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:mrgreen:

I see where your coming from.

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http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5833

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http://www.circumstitions.com/Restric/Botched3sc.html

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who do u think came up with the phrase "off with his head" Wink