Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 237 Location: Lake Geneva, Wisconsin
PersianKnight wrote:
More ignorance from someone enmeshed in his own patriarchal madness. You're ignrance is starting to irritate me and other truth seekers on this forum.
How do you explain the virgin birth then? Mary did not need a seed to produce Jesus. Where was the man then?
Oh, and you have to realise that men are HALF WOMEN!! This is represented by the X chromosome in us, which is our fertility aspect and represents the feminine life principle that nourishes and produces. Without water (which is a feminine essence), sperm shrivels up and dies and is inactive. It is HER creative spark which gives life to the sperm as well as creates and forms the baby in her womb. Without her life energy, the sperm will die. Without water, there can be no life - water is a profoundly feminine symbol; to deny this is to deny a fundamental truth. Woman represents the ABSOLUTE more than man, as his semen, although numerous, is disolved into one great entity far greater and then at the mercy of her creative power - his genetic information provides an incentive for her fertility (just one part of the design plan that the egg requires) and her creative powers are then drawn from within to generate the inert blueprint contained within the sperm (a bit like a water-dependant seed).
Woman IS Life, she IS energy, she IS Shakti - she represents 2 aspects. Her RECEPTIVE aspect which absorbs and receives all life into her nourishing heart of stillness, and her PROJECTIVE aspect which lies dormant within her, i.e. her creative power which energises all those who are drawn into her passive receptivity - a deep creative and nourishing power within her.
There is a Male Creator in the flesh up in the center of the earth.
He gives life to all things. He is the source.
Any female aspect is the receiver. That is why women have vaginas. They receive. The germinate. They nurture.
You must recognize the inverted world in which we live.
He resides past the starry sphere. (In the flesh)
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virgin birth is undocummented theory -
taking the evidence for it and comparing what we see in reality
- to believe in virgin birth is the same as to believe in santa claus.
as to women being more or less developed than men - i dont have such conception of things.
Women are different than men.
For example if we take results from modern neurology
- women have less synapses between neurons in each of hemispheres than men,
in the other side women have more synapses connecting both hemispheres.
This generally results in lack of concentration, on the other side women have better ability to perform more things at once,
easier to get clear picture about complex things (here comes "6th sense of women"), they're usually also more creative.
Speaking in general terms
1. men are usually better in science, because it needs enormous concentration on relatively few things
2. women are usually better in social aspects of life, because it needs ability to make clear judgement based on many factors
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:46 am
PersianKnight
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 216 Location: Somewhere safe
Cyrus the Shepherd wrote:
PersianKnight wrote:
More ignorance from someone enmeshed in his own patriarchal madness. You're ignrance is starting to irritate me and other truth seekers on this forum.
How do you explain the virgin birth then? Mary did not need a seed to produce Jesus. Where was the man then?
Oh, and you have to realise that men are HALF WOMEN!! This is represented by the X chromosome in us, which is our fertility aspect and represents the feminine life principle that nourishes and produces. Without water (which is a feminine essence), sperm shrivels up and dies and is inactive. It is HER creative spark which gives life to the sperm as well as creates and forms the baby in her womb. Without her life energy, the sperm will die. Without water, there can be no life - water is a profoundly feminine symbol; to deny this is to deny a fundamental truth. Woman represents the ABSOLUTE more than man, as his semen, although numerous, is disolved into one great entity far greater and then at the mercy of her creative power - his genetic information provides an incentive for her fertility (just one part of the design plan that the egg requires) and her creative powers are then drawn from within to generate the inert blueprint contained within the sperm (a bit like a water-dependant seed).
Woman IS Life, she IS energy, she IS Shakti - she represents 2 aspects. Her RECEPTIVE aspect which absorbs and receives all life into her nourishing heart of stillness, and her PROJECTIVE aspect which lies dormant within her, i.e. her creative power which energises all those who are drawn into her passive receptivity - a deep creative and nourishing power within her.
There is a Male Creator in the flesh up in the center of the earth.
He gives life to all things. He is the source.
Any female aspect is the receiver. That is why women have vaginas. They receive. The germinate. They nurture.
You must recognize the inverted world in which we live.
He resides past the starry shpere. (In the flesh)
They receive some genetic information, NOT life. They also draw you in like a magnet, whether a man likes it or not - you are drawn into her and then into something much greater than yourself.
If you want to be more 'diplomatic' with me - then realise that Yin\Yang represent the One Creator. God is essentially androdgynous - but with the feminine being the source of power, harmony, order and the reality which everything labors in the service of (the masculine represents manifestation, action, force, justice, destruction, etc).
Any female aspect is the receiver. That is why women have vaginas. They receive. The germinate. They nurture.
what about assholes Cyrus?
Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:56 am
Cyrus the Shepherd
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 237 Location: Lake Geneva, Wisconsin
Benjamin Freedman wrote:
Cyrus and your comment about vaginas
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Any female aspect is the receiver. That is why women have vaginas. They receive. The germinate. They nurture.
what about assholes Cyrus?
They may receive, but they do not harbor growth of sperm.
Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:15 am
Cyrus the Shepherd
Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 237 Location: Lake Geneva, Wisconsin
PersianKnight wrote:
If you want to be more 'diplomatic' with me - then realise that Yin\Yang represent the One Creator. God is essentially androdgynous - but with the feminine being the source of power, harmony, order and the reality which everything labors in the service of (the masculine represents manifestation, action, force, justice, destruction, etc).
This is an esoteric belief. There is no tangible(flesh) substance to this.
Essence is not tangible.
God is in the flesh, about 4,000 miles away.
Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:17 am
PersianKnight
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 216 Location: Somewhere safe
Cyrus the Shepherd wrote:
PersianKnight wrote:
If you want to be more 'diplomatic' with me - then realise that Yin\Yang represent the One Creator. God is essentially androdgynous - but with the feminine being the source of power, harmony, order and the reality which everything labors in the service of (the masculine represents manifestation, action, force, justice, destruction, etc).
This is an esoteric belief. There is no tangible(flesh) substance to this.
Essence is not tangible.
God is in the flesh, about 4,000 miles away.
Lol. Oh dear.
Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:38 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Someone start a thread about what you THINK is god, and get all the other threads back on topic -Thanks.
Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:08 am
DebbieKat
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Seattle, WA
Cyrus the Shepherd wrote:
PersianKnight wrote:
Look at the centre of a hurricane - all stillness, beauty, clarity and in the circular form of the feminine. But yet contains the power within it that creates the violent winds and bellowing storms around its periphery. The feminine principle EMPOWERS power - and it is the feminine which we are born from and which we all labour in the ultimate service of and return to. The universe is in the form of the spiral, curved and black-holes of receptivity lie at their center; chakras of the universe, feminine stillness at the heart of violent active matter.
Well this is not true.
The earth is our mother, so to speak, because it(she) encompasses us. She(earth) is impersonal, like a ship or a prize. But she physically encompasses us because she encloses us. This is why we hear of "mother" earth. Because earth is our physical womb.
"How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man."
Jeremiah 31:22
Woman is nurture and safety. She is protector from the depths below. She is home sweet home. She is fertility and in her we grow, within the walls of her womb. We were secretly formed in her depths, curiously wrought like a sperm in a uterus' wall.
But it is from the Male that life is generated from. He sits in the center, and spews out his living water from his mouth.
He is the source, she is the reception. He is the transmitter, she is the receiver.
It is He who is the center of the hurricane, not her.
You married folks can understand this better. She is multi-tasked, highly emotional, sometimes erratic; he is stable and serene.
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Woman is life, woman is the dormant volcano and the spirit itself - vulnerable, but eternal. Man is her projection, maintainer, defender - but ultimately the one who labors in her service.
This is not true either.
It is the Male who is the source of life. The female is the harborer.
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Any religion that tries to place men as superior to women; is an enemy of mine. I sure hope that Jesus wasn't a Christian.
Man is the head.
I'm married and female and I'M the stable, serene one. My husband is TOTALLY high maintenance and he'll completely agree with that statement.
These kinds of things are total generalizations. I disagree with what the bible says about head of household because I think it is a completely personal decision based on two people's points of view. Most women today don't usually marry because they need someone to provide for them anymore. Things are more equal. Women can get an education and work just as well as men can. Most modern marriages are true partnerships. The bible's guidance on this subject are completely obsolete and archaic. People who can't change with the times will become dinosaurs and become extinct. That's a fact. It's called evolution folks.
And, if we're talking Christianity here, the fact that most sects of the religion have priests who are forbidden to marry or have any kind of normal sexual relationship to be the ones to guide their parishioners on marriage issues is a complete and total farce.
If I were to ask someone for guidance on how to fix my leaky roof, would I ask someone who had never worked on a roof before? Lunacy I tell you.
Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:50 pm
Mystica
Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Australia
madthumbs wrote:
They need more Juba's picking off those bulldozer drivers.
That video is no longer available
Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:25 pm
Mystica
Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Australia
dennis wrote:
ok here is why at least some of those quotes are taken out of context and are an attempt to discredit the bible.
9 there are two things to consider here first this was probably wrriten as insturctions to women in one specific church where they may have been experiancing problems with certain women as the rest of the letter this is taken from suggests. but also it hilights that god made men and women for different roles men are often good leaders but women have other roles which are just as valuable like being more caring and others.
I'm only commenting on #9 because madthumbs does a good job of reply to the others.
Discrediting the bible isn't hard to do, the writings of MAN does a neat job of making almost everthing in it corrupting or contolling.
In #9 you use the words probably, may, and God made men and women for different roles, men are often good leaders BUT women have other roles ... which makes it very obvious in which direction the bible takes you regarding women, and that was the purpose of the bible ... to lessen the worth of women, the total opposite of what place women held in society until the advent of 'organized' religion and the writing of the bible.
Your suggestions and suppositions regarding the messages in the bible proves once and for all that it can be taken anyway you like, depending on how you have been taught by church leaders .... and that alone proves the bible is a major factor in mind control.
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Thu Jan 25, 2007 11:53 pm
Mystica
Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Australia
Opiate wrote:
On another note.
Let us throw the Bible out. Since it is "a corrupt book written by Jews"
You said we could learn about God or, our "intelligent designer" from nature.
There you go, learn from nature how he designed nature to operate. Does it seem to harsh for you how he designed them to work? Does it seem "oppresive" of the female specie? Does it seem sexist? Blame your intelligent designer then--or do we know better than him? It is unreasonable to suggest he designed them incorrectly, so the only logical reasoning to use in that case for these animals would be, that he knows obviously a good reason for designing them this way. Are we to shun it just because we dont like it? No. Good thing in the Bible, men are not commanded to treat them the same as animals. No wonder men were given the animals to their subjection. Animals are only animals and act on instinct--still, someone had to program them that way don't you think?
I am not condoning treating your wife like an animal would treat their mate--thats totally different--we have feelings and do not live on instinct.
But the above makes my point if you see it.
I dont fully agree with what is said in the article, since it is filled with femenist bias and emotion that almost makes looks nature look ugly with their view.
On the other hand, there are more than plenty of accounts of women that lived a good life and were even praised by other men! Wow, could "oppresive" men and dominating men really have room to praise such a woman? Apparently yes.
Go figure.
You left out this bit of information about NATURE ... Most bird species, especially Swans, Geese, and the now extinct Auk, form(ed) monogomous relationships and stay with the same mate for life, and are very protective of family.
There's also this telling tit bit in the said article "Wolves, beavers, gibbons, and a small African antelope known as a dik-dik all live in stable, monogamous pairs." (as do some other species btw)
In regards to the site
provided, regarding animal behaviour, did you bother to read the other humourous articles?
Water from minorities bodies.
How about this one:
And for the grandaddy of them all, there's this little piece of side splitting humour:
Not to mention Humans are built in a little more detail when it comes to the reproductive system and emotional connections compared to animals. Most animals don't have the ability to 'orgasm' or emotional ties, which determines a humans 'desire' to mate, in contrast to the 'dominant' animal preservation instinct, also the human female requires the ability of a male partner to demonstrate his masculine strength of character, to produce 'strong' sperm that will ensure a vibrant and healthy offspring.
All of this is readily observable in nature and can be very constructive to 'human' development.
ie the habits in nature teach valuable lessons without the need for the controlling aspect of the 'babel'.
Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:51 am
Mystica
Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Australia
DebbieKat wrote:
I'm married and female and I'M the stable, serene one. My husband is TOTALLY high maintenance and he'll completely agree with that statement.
These kinds of things are total generalizations. I disagree with what the bible says about head of household because I think it is a completely personal decision based on two people's points of view. Most women today don't usually marry because they need someone to provide for them anymore. Things are more equal. Women can get an education and work just as well as men can. Most modern marriages are true partnerships. The bible's guidance on this subject are completely obsolete and archaic. People who can't change with the times will become dinosaurs and become extinct. That's a fact. It's called evolution folks.
And, if we're talking Christianity here, the fact that most sects of the religion have priests who are forbidden to marry or have any kind of normal sexual relationship to be the ones to guide their parishioners on marriage issues is a complete and total farce.
If I were to ask someone for guidance on how to fix my leaky roof, would I ask someone who had never worked on a roof before? Lunacy I tell you.
Very well put Debbiekat
Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:57 am
nerdylatte
Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 1 Location: The future.
Men are just as much basstards.
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daniliver wrote:
All this is good. Women are evil by nature and they need our opression to save them from themselves. They are selfdestructive like a bomb and we must be the barrier to counterreact.
Look what women are doing today , nothing ,they are dirty bitches who sexual intercourse when they want ,you can easily find a 25 year woman who has been with 20 partners or more, with tatoos and piercings ,interesested only in having a good life burning the rest ,I mean you and your family, don't take care about your children or you ,a total dissaster . Why? because we've become weak with the new regime , we fear women now , why? Were your teachers women ? Did you fear them?
They divorce for nothing stealing the family house that your parents built, they want one children just to catch you by law.
They've become totally unstable and crazy for losing their youth. Is your fault of course. You loose your life for nothing in the hands of these snakes .
And all this is because all that you wrote there doesn't exist anymore is totally the opposite and you
I'm then assuming that you have never had a girlfriend nor will you ever have sex. : Sucks for you.
It's obvious that Daniliver is trolling. I seriously highly doubt that he sincerely believes what he posted. He's looking for attention. Don't buy into his trollish posts. In fact, that type of post of his is a common style of spam which tends to turn up in female-related topics like this around the internet. He's a troll, and he's not very original at it either.
: Sucks for you.
