Many of the prophecies given in Revelations of the Bible are coming true at this moment and this site is part of it.
Because the people in power are making them appear to be coming true because they're using religion as a mind control device.
The people in power? ive read the bible myself and noted that what it says in revelation are happening. im not paying attention to the media considering i dont have television and dont pay attention to the news on the radio. thats brainwashing, not churchs.
Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:21 am
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The people in power? ive read the bible myself and noted that what it says in revelation are happening. im not paying attention to the media considering i dont have television and dont pay attention to the news on the radio. thats brainwashing, not churchs.
Quit filling this thread with pro-Christian nonsense and back up what you say: What prophecy?
What does the Bible say about your church?
1 John 2:27 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
I never said a word about believing in God in order to be good.
Well, yes you did!
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Where does your will to be good come from? Does not every man or woman out there have something in them telling them to worship something? If not, God or Buddah.
With that statement you are indicating belief in a divine being as a prerequisite for humans to demonstrate the characteristic of "goodness".
Why all the hostility? Every so-called Christian or other religious believing person I've ever known, and believe me it's been hundreds, have nothing but repugnance for non-believers. How god-like or Christ-like is that? They tend to forget that Christ aligned himself with every sinner and outcast in his time, but it seems that type of Christ-like behavior is outside the realm of close-knit fundamentalists and other religious fanatics. Their "If you're not with us - then you're against us" mantra is tiresome, racist and outdated.
What do we now know? Maybe I should have phrased it this way, "What do ordinary laypeople now know?" With the introduction of the internet and the privilege to free distribute information and knowledge we know a hell of a lot more than in past times. We know that organized religion was a complete fabrication by those in power to strangle humanity's growth in order to assimilate it under the yoke of civilized societies. We know that Christianity and Islam were re-organized and distributed from previous Siddereal religious cults that also had the same stories weaved into their mythologies. The Virgin birth is not unique, the Resurrection is not unique, the Flood is not unique - nothing in the bible is unique, except for one thing. And that is the teachings of the mythical Jesus Christ. If you truly claim to be a Christian, then be one and practice what you preach.
Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:28 pm
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8183 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Galatians 5:22-23 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
-Honesty isn't listed of course.
Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:01 pm
stOneskull
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 819 Location: Australia
i think the spirit is honesty.
i agree with michael tsarion in that it's meant that the spirit is within and it's only by being honest with yourself that you are 'holy', being your self rather than an 'ego'.
I never said a word about believing in God in order to be good.
Well, yes you did!
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Where does your will to be good come from? Does not every man or woman out there have something in them telling them to worship something? If not, God or Buddah.
With that statement you are indicating belief in a divine being as a prerequisite for humans to demonstrate the characteristic of "goodness".
Why all the hostility? Every so-called Christian or other religious believing person I've ever known, and believe me it's been hundreds, have nothing but repugnance for non-believers. How god-like or Christ-like is that? They tend to forget that Christ aligned himself with every sinner and outcast in his time, but it seems that type of Christ-like behavior is outside the realm of close-knit fundamentalists and other religious fanatics. Their "If you're not with us - then you're against us" mantra is tiresome, racist and outdated.
What do we now know? Maybe I should have phrased it this way, "What do ordinary laypeople now know?" With the introduction of the internet and the privilege to free distribute information and knowledge we know a hell of a lot more than in past times. We know that organized religion was a complete fabrication by those in power to strangle humanity's growth in order to assimilate it under the yoke of civilized societies. We know that Christianity and Islam were re-organized and distributed from previous Siddereal religious cults that also had the same stories weaved into their mythologies. The Virgin birth is not unique, the Resurrection is not unique, the Flood is not unique - nothing in the bible is unique, except for one thing. And that is the teachings of the mythical Jesus Christ. If you truly claim to be a Christian, then be one and practice what you preach.
I never said it came from God. You missunderstood me. Those are two different questions which have nothing to do with each other. I meant that God gave us the will to be good wether we decided to acknowledge him or not. Hostility? I'm defending what i strongly believe in. I dont hate you because you dont believe in my God. I dont hate anyone. Maybe i am one of the few that do practice what i preach. Im not perfect. We all mess up. It happens. But i try. You dont know me and cant judge me. I dont know you and i wont judge you. I just want to get out truth. im sure youre going to butcher what i say and tell me its all lies. This mythical Jesus Christ? the one who died and rose again in three days to prove he was the Messiah. Why is there B.C. and A.D.? I believe that AD came after the death of Christ? Christianity is the only religion that has a man claiming to be God. Buddah did not claim to be god, only a prophet, Allah, prophet, and so on. most of the stories from other religions are derived from the bible. What God does is unique what the others do are not. but how can that be proved itself?A normal man couldnt have come up with those words on his own. Because a historian said Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 we believe it because he is a historian and is credible. I could easily make up a story about a man who discovered a foriegn land after a long treachorous voyage write it down and say it happened, people would believe it because i said it was true. Its written down, so is the Bible. Why would a group of people get together and compile a book like that. for fun? make up all those stories in there so that their children could have some amusment?
1 John 2:18-23 The Message Children, time is just about up. You heard the Antichrist is coming. Well, they're all over the place, antichrists everywhere you look. That's how we know we are close to the end. They left us, but they were never really with us. If they had been, they would've stuck it out with us, loyal to the end. In leaving, they showed their true colors, showed they never did belong......So who is lying here? It's the person who denies that Jesus is the Divine Christ, thats who. That is what makes an Antichrist: Denying the Father, denying the Son. No one who denies the Son has any part with the Father, but affirming the Son is an embrace of the Father as well.
Maybe your friends who claim to be Christians arent as 'Christ-Following' as they say. Many people wear the cross but dont bear the cross. The End will justify the pain it took to get us there.
Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:46 pm
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Can you stop praising yourself for a minute and tell us: what prophecy?
maybe he means the prophecy of 144000 israeli tribe males staying on earth after apocalypse.
im not a jew, nor from any of the lost tribes - bible says there are 12, but if you look carefully there are hundreds of aspirants .
They all want to stay on the earth alone.
No women for you guys!
Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:38 am
stOneskull
Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 819 Location: Australia
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Why is there B.C. and A.D.?
the gregorian calendar comes from the roman catholics.
it is not the only calendar used in the world, just by ones under dominion of this church.
you could use confucious (before confucious) or buddhism in china (before buddhism in china) or a roman era like augustus, or the end of the egyptian era
or use BCE and CE (common era), or the archeological way which now is the present, so the past is a certain amount of time BP (before present)
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Why would a group of people get together and compile a book like that. for fun? make up all those stories in there so that their children could have some amusment?
writings are seperate to the compilers. but yeah same crowd again did the compiling. not for fun but for public control. it's the official religion.
Can you stop praising yourself for a minute and tell us: what prophecy?
um ok, if the last qoute from scripture didnt speak to you ill try again.
2 Peter 3:3-7 The Message First off, you need to know that in the last days, mockers are going to have a heyday. Reducing everything to the level of their puny feelings, they'll mock, "So what's happened to the promise of his coming? Our ancestors are dead and buried, and everything's going on just as it has from the first day of creation. Nothing's changed."
They conveniently forget that long ago all the galaxies and this very planet were brought into existence out of watery chaos by Gods word. Then God's word brought the chaos back in a flood and destroyed the world. The current galaxies and earth are fuel for the final fire. God is poised, ready to speak his word again, ready to give the signal for the judgement and destruction of the desecrating skeptics.
The Roman Catholic church was started by Jesus' disciples. after they died it became corrupt by the romans.
are you saying the official religion of Christianity is public control? Im not sure if im following you. How is it public control when you have the choice to follow it or not? No one is forcing you to become a Christian. Public television, books, newspapers and magazines are the Governments form of control. Religion is the peoples decision. Almost Every American has a television in their home, the government for the most part controls whats on it and what they want people to see. Its controling peoples minds. What you eat, what you think, how you act. When a McDonalds commercial comes on, shows its juicy hamburgers and fries with a lusious Coke it makes you kinda want one, realize theres a Mickey D's around the corner and go buy one. Once the health-lacking food is in your body it slows your mind down forcing slower thoughts therefore the government can manipulate you into thinking a certain way about something.
Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:41 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8183 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
KJV wrote:
2 Peter 3:3-7 3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
That's it? lol!
Soothsayers and Astrologers can fake prophecy better!
sparrowAX wrote:
Our ancestors are dead and buried, and everything's going on just as it has from the first day of creation. Nothing's changed.
KJV wrote:
Genesis 1:1-5 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Nothing has changed eh?
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The Roman Catholic church was started by Jesus' disciples. after they died it became corrupt by the romans.
"For I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever." (Jeremiah 3:12)
"Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever." (Jeremiah 17:4)
"If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid." (John 5:31)
"Jesus answered: Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid." (John 8:14)
"And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth." (Matthew 28:18)
"the whole world is under control of the evil one." (1 John 5:19)
And Jesus said, "For judgement I am come into this world." (John 9:39)
"I came not to judge the world" (John 12:47)
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 5:16)
"Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 6:1)
"Jacob said, 'I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.'" (Genesis 32:30)
"No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18)
We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)
We should love God (Matthew 22:37)
There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18)
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Jesus teaches us how to turn the cheek and forgive those who trespass against us...
"Whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father." [Matt. x, 33.]
"Whosoever shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness." [Mark iii, 29.]
"Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee ... tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as a heathen man and a publican." [Matt. xviii, 15-17.]
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The bible god admits he performs evil acts. (As if the above was not proof enough!)
A Christian wrote: "God did not create evil. Evil is simply the state where God is not present."
If "God did not create evil" then what of the following?
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Exodus 32:14
And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
Joshua 23:15
Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things.
Judges 9:23
Then God sent an evil spirit
1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.
2 Samuel 12:11
Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house
1 Kings 9:9
...therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil.
1 Kings 14:10
Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam
2 Kings 6:33 ...Behold, this evil is of the LORD;
2 Kings 21:12 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle.
2 Kings 22:16 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place
2 Chronicles 34:24 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof...
Nehemiah 13:18 Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city?
Jeremiah 4:6 Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.
Jeremiah 6:19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people
Jeremiah 11:11 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them
Jeremiah 25:29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil
Jeremiah 35:17 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon Judah and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them:
Jeremiah 44:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, and upon all the cities of Judah
Jeremiah 45:5 ...behold, I will bring evil upon all flesh, saith the LORD:
Jeremiah 49:37 ...I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the LORD; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:
Micah 1:12 .... evil came down from the LORD
Micah 2:3 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, against this family do I devise an evil
Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:38 am
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stOneskull
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ive read the bible myself and noted that what it says in revelation are happening.
im not paying attention to the media.
how do you know what's happening outside your town?
talking with other revelation-prophecy believers?
you're saying you believe people can see into the future,
when it makes more sense it's not prophecy, but a plan.
a plan written by men, being fulfilled by men.
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeeded be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." -- Albert Einstein
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Religion's DEAD. Go cry me a river, eat your heart out, and start using your brain.
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