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"I'm Not Racist But Its True"
Nothing like a little controversy:
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From: Controversy
Date: Jan 31, 2007 11:52 AM
Subject I'm Not Racist But Its True(reposted w/reply from me)
Body: ----------------- Bulletin Message -----------------
From: Kym
Date: Jan 31, 2007 5:09 AM
you call me me "Cracker", "Honkey", "Whitey", "Gringo " and you think it's OK.
...But when I call you Kike, sand nigger, rag head ,Towelhead, WOP, Camel Jockey, Gook, nigger, slant
eyes or Chink you call me a racist.
-You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you, so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
-You have the United Negro College Fund.
-You have Martin Luther King Day.
-You have Black History Month.
-You have Cesar Chavez Day.
-You have Yom Hashoah
-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi
-You have the NAACP.
-You have BET.
-If we had WET(white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.
-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.
-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.
-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.
-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.
-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.
-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them... they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.
-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
I am WHITE.
I am PROUD.
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
Now watch, I'll be a racist for posting this
So what? no one will re post this for fear of being called racist
if you think its true re-post it saying "im not RACIST but its true"
MY REPLY To HER WAS:
First of all you don't know what you are talkin' about.We don't have BET.BET is owned by white people who try to dictate our culture to us.They secretly purchased BET right under our Black noses and now all they market to our Black youth is gangsta this and gangsta that.All while you white suburban kids are copyin' off us because you are so awe stricken by Black Urban Culture.
Now lets talk about the good 'ol ghetto which obviously you know nothing about.See the Blacks and Hispanics who live in the ghetto aren't like that because they want to be.They live with fear of getting shot,stabbed,robbed,and murdered like any White person would.We don't create that environment.That environment was created for us by the White government.These people live with the "KILL OR BE KILLED" philosophy because they have to.When people are put in the worse situations possible they do what they have to do to survive.It would be like bein' stranded in a jungle.
You talk down on the ghetto but why is it that in the 80's and 90's White Presidents like Ronald Reagan and George Bush purposely flooded the Black and Brown ghetto communites with crack cocaine?Sure you can't think we brought it in to this country.We don't own the trains,boats and planes bringin' in the guns and drugs.
Ask yourself who has the power to do this?White people.I mean come on.If they can ship Black Enslaved Human Cargo into this country,they can ship guns and drugs here.Did you know that while George Bush Sr. was in office that the cocaine supply in America increased by 2000%? Yes 2000%.That is far from a coincidence.
And why is it everytime a representative of the Ghetto from the Ghetto comes out of nowhere to speak out for his people he some how manages to get assassinated?People like MLK,Malcolm X,Medgar Evers,Bob Marley,Tupac,Fred Hampton,Huey P Newton,etc.Oh I guess you think its a coincide that all these men spoke out against the same things and somehow ended up silenced by an untimely death?
And yes if you look at history all the way up to now,Whites have committed the most violent acts of all time.They are the Michael Jordan of violence without old age and retirement.Do the research yourself.I mean you guys have the highest number of serial killers.I mean isn't strange that all across the world you are known as "white devil"?
-You have Hitler.
-You have the White Pilgrims who murdered the Indians.
-You have had slavery and still do in some countries.
-You have Sir Jeffrey Amherst who passed out clothing infected with small pox to the Indians knowing they had no immunity.
-You have George W. Bush
-You have the "Son of Sam"
-You have Jeffrey Dahmer
-You have Bloody Mary
-You have Ivan the Terrible
-You have Vlad Tepish a.k.a. Vlad the Impaler or just Dracula
-You have the KKK,CIA,FBI,ATF,DEA,CFR,ABC,NBC,CNN,MTV,BET,The U.S.A.
Historically whites are the biggest criminals in the whole universe.They have even stolen the Land of America from the Indigenous Peoples of America(Indians to you) and somehow managed to dictate small pieces of land called reservations to them.They were here first,yet White Tyrannical Terrorist murderded them off like it was the tip of the iceberg when indeed it was.Everytime the White Europeans went out to explore they would "discover" some new place,new people and then detroy their culture,religion, and their way of life.I can't forget enslavement of these people.
Why is it when a White male commits the same crime a Black male commits,the Black male is 100% of the time gauranteed to recieve a harsher sentence or punishment?Why is that a Black man or woman can apply for a job and be passed up at least 70% of the time for a less qualified White person.
Now if you ask me the UNCF,Black History Month,And MLK Day are just little bullshit ways of softening the blow we recieved from slavery.The NAACP has been infiltrated along time ago.It is really not for the Black community anymore.The UNCF,MLK Day,and Black History Month is okay but its still built on bullshit.
They don't teach us real Black History in this White Society.They tell us that our history started in America with slavery.Then they glorify people like Frederick Douglass,George Washington Carver,etc.But they never speak on our great history before all that.They never tell us about the Black Egyptians(the Egyptians were Black.) and the Empires in Kush.They never tell us that we created religion,government,philosophy and built the pyramids.
Why should Whites have a WET or a White History Month?You've had the last 600 years.I mean you have your White Jesus,Moses,Noah,Abraham.You have privilege in this country just because you are White.In the White school curriculum they glorify who?The White Europeans who claimed that Blacks were only 3/5 of human beings.What foreign languages do we learn in school?Yes thats right,White European languages.
And yes you do have an organization that is setup for whites to only advance.Its called the legal system.The education system,the banking system,capitalism,fascism,etc.
Also for your information we didn't march in the MillionMan March for our rights.It was for unity amongst our people.
See your bulletin was very ignorant and offensive.You aren't Black and will never be Black.You don't know what we have had to put up with in this country and you don't care and won't care because you don't have to deal with it as a White person.You know nothing about us period.The only thing you know about us is BET and what the White owners want you to know.
We aren't the "American Gangters" we are portrayed as.We only imitate what has been done to us.That is the language that tyrants understand-Violence.So next time the White European American man will know that he ain't takin' us no sexual intercourse' where we don't wanna be.And that is why MLK has a day.
It is because he said what the White oppressors wanted hear."We wil fight violence with non-violence".And what was the result?They started spittin' on us and hittin' us with rocks while we would peacefully picket and march.
But you see they didn't give Malcolm X a day.Why?Because his motto was if you hit me then I'ma hit you back.I fully agree.Why?Because violence is the only language these White Oppressors speak and undertsand without a syllable lost.They taught us how to be killers and thieves.
Deep down inside you may not be a racist but you are a stereotypist.You live in a White superficial suburban clueless world.
Why don't you actually do some research and reading on Black people and their history before you go ranting on about some bullshit?And I don't mean history written and compiled by white people who aren't even cultured on us.
Thing is no matter what you say,you can't say "nigger" period.You are a descendant of White Slave Maters and the "n" word standard stands for you too.You can't say it.
And the reason we are proud to be Black is because for the last 600 years Whites have put it in our heads that we are niggers and bein' black is a curse.Well now we know that the 1st people on Earth were Black and Jesus was black.We now know we built the pyramids and that the Egyptians were Black.
We now know that we invented religion,math,philosophy,government,music,etc that other cultures have come to us to learn but have turned around and made it their own like they invented it..People like the Greeks and Romans,the English etc.
Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:08 pm
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No offence but this looks like the sort of shite that belongs on stormfront or combat18.
Blacks & whites having a whinge & moaning session..heard it all before!
If only those whining blacks & whites who write that sort of crap could wake up and see the big picture about who is truly pitting them against each other. The they could do something more constructive than writing crap like that article.
If only those whining blacks & whites who write that sort of crap could wake up and see the big picture about who is truly pitting them against each other. The they could do something more constructive than writing crap like that article.
Yes, and the bigger picture is that the Illuminati is in control. The Illuminati, of course, is predominantly White. So if you really look at it, the arguments of the Blacks (and Non-White people in general) are much more credible - much being an understatement - than those of the Whites. But I see your point nonetheless; your point being, that Humanity as a whole needs to transcend this struggle between the races. This is afterall, a fight against elitism - elitism which for the most part, is a White-powered pyramidal hierarchy that's composed of a multi-faceted and heavily compartmentalized network of secret societies interconnected together at the highest levels of Zionism, Freemasonry / Atenism, Jesuitism / Christianity, etc.
that's right ..... it's not this race against that race ... it's powerful against powerless .... and why are we largely powerless? Because we focus all our energy towards smallish battles and unimportant votes, be it prez oder idol ....
divide and conquer, the oldest trick in the book ..... wake up ppl.
You're right, it is definitely true. And the people that responded are also right because there are bigger issues too worry about than racial issues. However, I always find it amazing that "truthseekers" will simply not talk about race issues. If they were truly seeking truth on all topics wouldn't people at least look at both sides of this issue? Before anyone tells me they have looked at both sides I am going to tell them that NO they probably have not. Seriously do some research into IQ differences and crime rates and see for yourself.
Just because somebody speaks the truth about racial differences does not mean they are an "evil racist". In fact, they are right! If people would accept racial differences instead of forcing integration and pretending everyone is genetically the same we would likely have less "racism".
The Jewish led NAACP (civil rights movement) was a divide and conquer technique, which has worked brilliantly. We now have much higher black crime rates and and 90% non-european immigration. What this does is create a growing non-white population, which will be the majority by approx. 2040 - 2050. Is it really racist to worry about the fundamental values of this country being slowly eroded away?
Do we call the Japanese people "racist" for restricting immigration and being very proud of their race and culture. In fact I commend them on keeping their country Japanese. Japan is immaculate and clean because they all feel a sense of pride and family, which is no longer true here or in Europe.
Read this http://amren.com/colorofcrime/color.pdf and this http://amren.com/Reports/Hispanics/HispanicsReport.pdf and tell me if black crime rates are something that we should pretend does not exist. Should we continue to leave the Mexican border wide open as well? Yes people, having illegal immigrants flood this country is ILLEGAL and costing taxpayers hugely! This is not a shot against black people, it is a call for people to pull their heads out of their asses and quit crying racism all the time.
We cannot jail people for their thoughts, so although racial discrimination is bad, it is not crime. People may think whatever they like and to tell somebody they have deep mental issues for thinking a certain way about a group of people is absurd.
Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:59 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Racism is a huge issue and should NOT be ignored! How do you get people to kill other people? - You have to make them HATE them. Why else do you see racism in the religions being promoted by the controllers?
People are expressing truths as they see them in the quoted op. I posted it so people can see and discuss these different perspectives for mutual enlightenment. It wasn't to argue about who has it worse or who is more right.
Illegal Immigrants aren't the problem. The problem was the border to begin with. It could be our jobs going there, or them coming here. Forcing them to stay in Mexico means forcing them to be slave labor for us while we reap the cheap products and sell out our own country. The money being wasted on Israel could be used to repair the damage that the border has caused.
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people at least look at both sides of this issue? Before anyone tells me they have looked at both sides I am going to tell them that NO they probably have not. Seriously do some research into IQ differences and crime rates and see for yourself.
IQ (intelligence Quotient) can be increased or reduced depending on the degree of education, media-brainwashing (PSYOP), assimilation, imperialism, war, famine, living standards, etc. The reason why Black communities have generally "lower" IQs than White communities is because of the difference in quality of the educational systems; there are many privileges that White people enjoy because of the overall biased institutional system in America. This biased system is controlled and maintained by the top 1% ruling elite.
The media establishment also plays a gigantic role in projecting false stereotypes on certain peoples - and they propagate these images repetitively so as to condition the masses. This is how mass social brainwashing works. It is exactly how the corporate media operates. It uses repetition to transmit subliminal persuasions on the human subconsious. Therefore, if a group of people has been exposed repetitively to certain stereotypes, they will begin to identify with those stereotypes and act accordingly. Sociologists identify this quagmire as the Stereotype Threat:
Besides acknowledging the fact that television media often offers negative stereotypical portrayals of individuals belonging to certain racial and/or ethnic groups such as African-Americans and homosexuals, social psychology goes further by examining the direct implications of these mostly negative images. One of these implications is the notion of stereotype threat, the risk of confirming a negative stereotype about one’s group as self characteristic. As an individual is constantly exposed to negative images of his/her racial or ethnic group, this person begins to internalize the same social and personal characteristics of these images.
Who we see, hear, and read on television, radio, newspapers, and in movies has a great deal of influence on shaping the attitudes of all Americans. How African, Hispanic (Latino), and Asian Americans are portrayed in these mediums often stereotypes and reinforces negative images of each ethnic group.
..the media are the main sources of information about people of other racial groups and therefore deserve a share of the blame for the prevalence of racist attitudes.
The media have and will continue to portray a self-serving negative stereotype of the African-American community. The societal and economic factors of racism have become more than just a bias. They are also a profitable industry, in which the elite will continue to suppress the lower class in order to maximize profits. According to Harvard professor Cornell West, 1 percent of the elite holds some 48 percent of America's wealth. This means that media, racism, and stereotypes will continue to be employed so that those elite can be sure of their continuing economic stability.
"Most of the decision-makers in North American news and entertainment media are white. Media ownership is mainly concentrated in the hands of white males; white journalists dominate the mainstream media; and white people hold most creative positions in the entertainment media as actors, writers and directors. All these factors contribute to the prevalence of whiteness in media, and help to reinforce white privilege as the norm".
What this does is create a growing non-white population, which will be the majority by approx. 2040 - 2050. Is it really racist to worry about the fundamental values of this country being slowly eroded away?
What's wrong with having a growing Non-white population? Whoever said that America is supposed to be White? I thought America belonged to the Native American Indians? Ooops forgot, the Whites stole their land. Don't forget that.
If you want to focus on other people's crimes, go look at your own race's crimes first...
Genocide and Slavery against the Native Americans:
http://www.musc.edu/vawprevention/research/sociocultural.shtml (source: Medical University of South Carolina) - As early as 1660 in Colonial America laws encouraged the "sexual tyranny" of African American slaves by slave owners to enhance owners' economic and social gain. Slave owners especially victimized African American women; offspring from the rape of African American women slaves by slave owners increased slave populations and owners' holdings. Moral justification for the sexual oppression and exploitation of African American slaves stemmed from 15th century Christian missionary attitudes that vilified the "sexual appetite" of Africans. Stereotypes about male African American sexual prowess and the sexual promiscuity of female African Americans linger to this day. Until slavery was abolished, African American slaves had no legal recourse for rape. After slavery, the American legal system treated the rape of African American and White women differently; African American women's sexual assaults were not taken as seriously.
http://www.incite-national.org/issues/warinfo/violence.html - Colonizers have long tried to crush the spirit of the peoples they colonize and blunt their will to resist colonization. One of the most devastating weapons of conquest has been sexual violence. In the eyes of colonizers, the bodies of people of color are considered inherently "dirty." For instance, as European settlers of California described in the 1860s, Native people were "the dirtiest lot of human beings on earth (Rawls 1984, 195)." They wear "filthy rags, with their persons unwashed, hair uncombed and swarming with vermin (Rawls 1984, 195)." The following 1885 Proctor & Gamble ad for Ivory Soap also illustrates this equation between Indian bodies and dirt.....
In the colonial worldview, only "clean" and "pure" bodies deserve to be protected from violence and these concepts are always already racialized. Violence done to "dirty" or "impure" bodies simply does not count as violence. Because the bodies of women of color are also seen as "dirty," they too are considered "rapable." The practice of mutilating Indian bodies, for instance-- both living and dead --makes it clear that colonizers do not think Indian people deserve bodily integrity. This attitude dates back to the earliest periods of westward conquest....
The history of sexual violence and genocide for Native women is illustrative of how gender violence functions as a tool for racism and colonialism for women of color in general. As with Native women, African American women have also been viewed as inherently rapable. Whereas colonizers used sexual violence to kill of Native populations, however, white slave owners used rape to reproduce an exploitable labor force. Because the children of Black slave women inherited their slave status, it was economically profitable to systematically rape Black women in order to reproduce their slave labor. Because Black women were seen as the property of their slaveowners, their rape at the hands of these men did not count. As one southern politician declared in the early 1900s, there was no such thing as "virtuous colored girl" over the age of fourteen (Davis 1981, 182). The testimonies from slave narratives and other sources reveals the systematic abuse of slave women by white slaveowners.
Apartheid consisted of numerous laws that allowed the ruling white minority in South Africa to segregate, exploit and terrorize the vast majority: Africans, mostly, but also Asians and Coloureds - people of mixed race. In white-ruled South Africa, black people were denied basic human rights and political rights. Their labour was exploited, their lives segregated.
Despite the transformation of the political system in South Africa, there are still fundamental contradictions in the society. Private ownership of the means of production remains. Wealth remains in the hands of a few.
The basic social indicators in South Africa paint a bleak picture. The figures for unemployment in 2004 were at 31 percent. Around 50 percent of the population lives in poverty.
The economy remains largely in the hands of the former white ruling class. According to Johannesburg’s City Press (May 11, 2003), 98 percent of executives in privately owned South African companies in 2002 were white.
In 1995, immediately following the end of apartheid, whites controlled over 80 percent of the country’s farmland. That figure remains unchanged today. (AFP, Oct. 5, 2004)
.....True equality—social equality—for Black South Africans cannot take place within the bounds of capitalism. That is the main challenge facing revolutionaries in South Africa. It is the reason that communism remains alive in the fields and mines throughout South Africa today.
Most of the wealth of Africa are still concentrated to European-proxy governmental branches and the multi-national private corporations that exploit Africa's natural resources.
Africa is torn by never-ending civil war. The governments in Africa have no loyalty to their people. They are White Capitalist-controlled proxy governments (puppet governments), not real governments. This also means that they are remnants of old European rule. They adhere to European Corporate Elites. Africa is merely being used as a monopoly grounds for New Age Imperialism.
Discussing racism is a very crucial part in trying to expose the multi-faceted / multi-layered Illuminati hierarchy. Indeed, it is disappointing to see that the majority of truthseekers turn a blind eye to racial issues. It is imperative for all of us to expose the racist paradigm in modern times, for by doing so, it will also expose the historical roots of the powerful ruling hierarchy that maintains it.
Anyone who is proud of the pigment of their skin, or lack thereof, is seriously in need of something to be proud of.
Cultures, not skin colors, are responsible for cultural advancements. The fact that the Indo-Europeans have been very successful in dominating the globe could indicate a superior culture, or an ethos which is cruel and inhumane. Take your pick. There's evidence to support both claims.
Cultures, not skin colors, are responsible for cultural advancements.
Well said. I would like to add to that point as well by emphasizing the fact that even before European Imperialism arose, there were already much older and much more ancient civilizations that flourished in Africa, in the Americas, and elsewhere around the globe. Every civilization has had its share of dominance and eventual decline. This happens all the time. Every culture has had their share of "superiority" and "misery" so to speak. There are also ancient artifacts being collected and analyzed around the world today which show images of machines that are parallel to today's current technology. Some images even depict crafts that are far more advanced than today's technologies. These findings indicate that perhaps our current human technology is not revolutionary at all, but rather, a re-discovery.
Aeon wrote:
The fact that the Indo-Europeans have been very successful in dominating the globe could indicate a superior culture, or an ethos which is cruel and inhumane. Take your pick. There's evidence to support both claims.
I agree with you there Aeon. The word "superior" is subjective and can be rather ambiguous. While some cultures may not have been as technologically advanced as others, they were more advanced spiritually; some parts of the Native American cultures and the Mayan cultures were highly advanced in Shamanism, Animal Magnetism, and the Occult arts. In many aspects within the African cultures as well as in the Asian cultures, knowledge of the Occult and the Arcane was pervasive and even applied. Knowledge of the Human Chakras, knowledge of the subtle energy fields of the planet, knowledge of sacred geometry, knowledge of Astrology, and knowledge of ancient Magick itself were already in application during the ancient times.
Spiritual Gnosticism of course, underwent a decline due to deliberate suppression by Imperial powers who were intent to possess and distribute this knowledge only to themselves. Hence the development of secret societies. This is how elitism empowers itself and compartmentalizes the masses. It deliberately suppresses information from the public that is vital to the development of Humanity as a whole. It is only in recent times - with the emergence of Quantum Physics - that Spiritualism is being re-discovered and re-affirmed.
I want to make it clear though that Spirituality and Religion are two very different things. Religion is nothing more than a materialistic patriarchy that prostitutes "faith" in order to keep the masses blinded and ever so dependent on the established system. Religion is a dogmatic system of control and manipulation over the Human Consiousness, to put it succinctly. In other words, religion does not allow for Spiritual development because it is designed to keep people in a state of constant dependency in which people are unable to think for themselves. Materialism and religion are like hand in glove so to speak. Unlike Spirituality, they are based on superficiality; devoting one's life to an external "Messiah" is no different than giving value to an external object. Dependency is the opposite of Independency. Let's not also forget that Materialism in general, has often led to the demise of the Planet's environment, the exploitation of natural resources, and the de-humanization of the Human Consciousness.
Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:42 pm
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I agree with almost everything said here, from both sides of the coin. Except this ... "We now know that we invented religion"
Why? Because to be proud of something that has caused all the ills of the world, it's the sign of being well and truly brainwashed.
Religion is what has created all the aspects of racism. We have been made to believe we are born sinners, born out of original sin, it's what taught us to hate another culture because it is 'different', and that's from all cultures, not just black and white ...
It's time we started to realise we belong to the "HUMAN RACE" one "race" for all of mankind, with many cultures, and many shades. we can (and do) learn from different cultures, and we have had enough time now to realise where the enemy skulks and hides ... it's within religion.
The Superus Eligere (the SUPER ELITE) have no religion but power, greed, and evil, they can hide among the many groups who enslave us and pretend benevolence when they have no real meaning of the word ... they control our every THOUGHT, our every action, and our 'beliefs' (a different belief for each different religion).
HOW do they do that?? they do it by having the knowledge from day one that the MIND IS THE REAL POWER OF WE HUMANS and to survive and not get 'overpowered' by the majority they had to remove the power of thought, the knowledge that the mind is their real enemy, so they have NEGATED the power of our minds. Our minds are what they fear most.
Turn the tide and learn for yourselves HOW to get the power back, get the holosync programme, the mind aerobics CDs anything that will teach you how to be happy, tolerant, how to solve all problems, how to heal your body and your minds.
Our bodies are merely the transportation we need to mobilise in this phase of our existence, learn that there is no death as we fear it to be, that we are spiritual beings, made of atoms, molecules, electrons etc, we are 'pure energy' and it can't be destroyed, but it can be used to make our lives as they were meant, not what we have been TAUGHT.
Racism is a taught subject ... it's something we learn, think about how we learn to 'think', then take your mind back and use it against those who teach.
All I know about black people is that they don't know how to tip. Why is that? I mean I didn't become a racist until I became a waiter. They have some belief that I should work for them for free like a slave. I totally understand why my ancestors put the sexual intercourse in chains.
Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:01 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
There's a lot of very pale people in my family that won't tip. If tips weren't a possible tax free income for some; I'd be against them.
It's probably more of a cultural thing in your area. People are followers.
“Now lets talk about the good 'ol ghetto which obviously you know nothing about.See the Blacks and Hispanics who live in the ghetto aren't like that because they want to be.They live with fear of getting shot,stabbed,robbed,and murdered like any White person would.We don't create that environment.That environment was created for us by the White government.These people live with the "KILL OR BE KILLED" philosophy because they have to.When people are put in the worse situations possible they do what they have to do to survive.It would be like bein' stranded in a jungle.”
Low income areas generally suffer from a great deal of crime. This is, in my opinion, due to the circumstances of which they live. Bereft of education and suffering from dejection brought on by their poor standards of living, these people succumb to the siren call of sin and debauchery. They are victims of circumstance. You believe that this corruption is not due to the weakness of the human spirit but that it is a product of a white conspiracy to destroy people of color. I assure you good sir that no forked tongue of a white flits in the ears of the downtrodden and the desperate before they commit acts of malice or decadence. Poverty broods the worse in people all over the world, not just the United States, and do not condone murder by saying that it is a necessity to survive in such a place. The ghetto is not some feral hinterland beyond the sphere of that which is civilized. To kill a man before he murders you is one thing, but to partake wanton gang warfare in the streets cannot be justified.
The impoverished sections of a city do not need to be a crime zone. There is no shame in poverty nor is there need of immorality. To purge our cities of violence will require the efforts of all people. Your demonizing of whites undermines this most noble of goals.
“You talk down on the ghetto but why is it that in the 80's and 90's White Presidents like Ronald Reagan and George Bush purposely flooded the Black and Brown ghetto communites with crack cocaine?Sure you can't think we brought it in to this country.We don't own the trains,boats and planes bringin' in the guns and drugs.”
The vile tentacles of the drug network extend far beyond US boarders. Wealthy criminal organizations, such as the infamous South American drug cartels, do possess the means to smuggle their wretched merchandize to our cities. Your accusation that it is our government who orchestrates the clandestine drug channel is outrageous. The state and federal governments spend millions of dollars defending our nation from the evils of drugs. What motive do you propose the government has for spending its money to smuggle in drugs and defend against them at the same time? Is it simply to destroy the lives of taxpaying US citizens? I think not.
“Historically whites are the biggest criminals in the whole universe.They have even stolen the Land of America from the Indigenous Peoples of America(Indians to you) and somehow managed to dictate small pieces of land called reservations to them.They were here first,yet White Tyrannical Terrorist murderded them off like it was the tip of the iceberg when indeed it was.Everytime the White Europeans went out to explore they would "discover" some new place,new people and then detroy their culture,religion, and their way of life.I can't forget enslavement of these people.
They don't teach us real Black History in this White Society.They tell us that our history started in America with slavery.Then they glorify people like Frederick Douglass,George Washington Carver,etc.But they never speak on our great history before all that.They never tell us about the Black Egyptians(the Egyptians were Black.) and the Empires in Kush.They never tell us that we created religion,government,philosophy and built the pyramids.”
Just as poverty corrupts so too does power. It is unfortunate when man succumbs to his primal avarice and destroys his brother, but that is the precedent. Europeans did perpetrate appalling crimes against the rest of the world in their imperialistic quest for power, but you must not chastise a whole race of people for the crimes of their ancestors. The empires of Europe have all fallen, and the bloody competition for power those nations held with each other have given way to a new European Union ensuring peace in a continent that suffered millenniums of war.
Ancient Egypt suffered the same avarice as the nations of Europe and all other empires in history. The Egyptians conquered foreign lands in search of wealth and also took slaves. The actions of the olden peoples prove unjustifiable by our modern views of morality, and we should count ourselves fortunate that we were not born in the days of empires and kings, but this is history. It is not immoral to open a book and picture oneself alongside Alexander as he marched through the gates of Babylon, or to envision a charge of Hannibal’s mighty elephants against the Roman battle line, or even to humble oneself under the courage of King Richard I in battle against the armies of Saladin. These men did incredible things in their lives. True, they made war and conquered in a most barbaric fashion, but we cannot judge the credentials of a race of people based on history. Those were different times sir, even African chieftains and kings sold rival tribes into slavery during the colonial era, but we are a modern people, a different people.
“We aren't the "American Gangters" we are portrayed as.We only imitate what has been done to us.That is the language that tyrants understand-Violence.So next time the White European American man will know that he ain't takin' us no sexual intercourse' where we don't wanna be.And that is why MLK has a day.
It is because he said what the White oppressors wanted hear."We wil fight violence with non-violence".And what was the result?They started spittin' on us and hittin' us with rocks while we would peacefully picket and march.
But you see they didn't give Malcolm X a day.Why?Because his motto was if you hit me then I'ma hit you back.I fully agree.Why?Because violence is the only language these White Oppressors speak and undertsand without a syllable lost.They taught us how to be killers and thieves.”
How dare you belittle Martin Luther King Jr.? That man’s service for the Civil Rights Movement was second to NONE. Malcolm X was not half the man Dr. King was. He took a page from Gandhi’s book. There was a man who led his underdeveloped country to independence from Britain non-violently. The people of India could never have achieved victory over the British superpower with might alone, but with the same non-violent resistance Martin Luther King Jr. later adopted, India became Indian once more. This same feat cost the founding fathers the lives of thousands and the colonies were left in shambles. You speak as though non-violent resistance is ineffectual, but these two men are proof to the contrary.
Your advocacy of violence scares me. Under your guidance, the protests in Birmingham would have turned into a bloody street battle rather than the manifestation of white oppression that garnered sympathy for the movement across the nation. The Civil Rights Movement is over good sir, and no peaceable demonstration would ever incur violence by white police officers. If violence is still the tool of these white oppressors you speak of, where do they attack you? Who would you use violence on? Racism is still very real in this nation: There is a pro-white bias in many, and the ignorant rabble of bigots still offends the civilized, but the times of racial melee and sanctioned racism is over.
Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:37 am
dumby
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 258 Location: kalifornia
yes gandhi was great, but india did not free itself solely by non-violence!!!! how could you say that?
that may be what highschool texts say..... but then again they dont go over the century of violent american labor struggles much, either.
I was born/raised in a Southern Baptist home. Caucasian and Repblican. We were a typical middle class family, but also not so typical. We grew most of our own vegetables on a plot that my father's workplace had provided for its employees. Mom was a stay-at-home mom until I got into high school and my elder brothers had already left home to begin their own lives.
MTV made its debut, and we were not allowed to watch it. I remember wanting to watch the Cosby Show, but my father told me to "Turn that N sh** off."
Both mom and dad would poke fun and make racist remarks about anyone else other than white folk.
One of my good friends from jr. high was a black boy. I kept that a secret, of course. My parents would have had a field day with that if they knew. Then in high school, I dated a respectable Hispanic guy. My family did not like that at all. They would call him names such a "Juan Valdez".. you know, the coffee bean picker from the old commercials. I didn't appreciate that. Carlos was a great guy! Dressed cleanly, and had a nice respectable family who never did drugs or commit crimes. But that wasn't good enough for my family. They did everything they could to separate me from him, and that makes me very sad.
I was even told a story that my grandfather died before I was born, shot and killed by a black man.
Even though I was raised in this environment, I did not understand it. I saw everyone as human, regardless of their skin tone, and still believe so today. I have great respect for all the world's races. We are all different, but yet still the same. I see past skin color and religion and can clearly see we are all still the same species.
Dogs come in different colors, and we don't bat an eye at that. There's not really a big difference between... let's say a blonde lab and a chocolate lab. They are both great dogs, but still labs nonetheless. Mostly everyone (at least I think so.. could be wrong) would still say hey that's a lab.
Now that I'm older and have studied things such as human races, mythology, religion, ancient texts, etc. I still don't see a huge difference, except that the fact that white man is probably the most violent of all the races. As an example, the US is the largest manufacturer of torture devices. (Well, maybe not any more, with outsourcing to other countries.) Scary stuff.
How many times have we seen pictures of Jesus as a white guy with blonde/light brown hair and blue eyes? Chances are, considering where he was living (if he existed at all), he was not Caucasian!
So this leads me to believe that the differences in the races today has had an influence. Who/what influenced?? I don't know, but have my suspicions, however bizarre and non-mainstream they might be, which I will not discuss publicly. But I still believe that there has been an influence.
And this influence is to create havock, hatred, and fear of all other races between each other. Some might classify this influence as evil. I can see where this idea might arise. Not only do different races fight, many times people of the same race fight amongst themselves over religion.
I also could be wrong about this, but isn't it true that the majority of the world's elite are Caucasian?? Bilderburger group.. Council of Foreign Relations.. Illuminati.
I think it all comes down to one thing: control. If you really want to control all people, the best way is to influence battles between the races, and falsify information to make each one think they are better than the rest. This way, if people are too busy fighting amongst themselves, then they have no time or energy to look at the bigger picture. It entraps us all in 3D, and the only thing that seems to allow us to imagine a "beyond" is religion. And that too is controlled and manipulated.
I say it's time for us all to wake up and see everything in the bigger picture. I am sure this is more than difficult for many. We are all here on this planet to grow and learn. We cannot possibly do these things if we are artifically encouraged to stay away from it.
The ultimate purpose of this control? I can't possibly imagine. None of it makes sense to me. I feel lost in a sea of walking dead. Am I the only one who feels this way? I feel incredibly alone in this matter.
I encourage everyone to stop, be still and really think about things. Ask why?
My physics teacher back in high school told me once that there's a difference between intelligent people and others... the intellgent ones ask questions. It's time for some major soul searching on this planet. Look for the bigger picture.
I'll get off my soapbox for now. lol But leave you with some lyrics by Jem. Song is "They." Kinda crappy song, but gets the point across.
Quote:
Who made up all the rules
We follow them like fools
Believe them to be true
Don't care to think them through
I'm sorry so sorry
I'm sorry it's like this
I'm sorry so sorry
I'm sorry we do this
And it's ironic too
Cos what we tend to do
Is act on what they say
And then it is that way
I'm sorry so sorry
I'm sorry it's like this
I'm sorry so sorry
I'm sorry we do this
Who are they
where are they
how can they possibly
know all this
Who are they
where are they
how can they possibly
know all this
Do you see what I see
Why do we live like this
Is it because it's true
that ignorance is bliss
Who are they
where are they
how do they
know all this
I'm sorry so sorry
I'm sorry it's like this
Do you see what I see
Why do we live like this
Is it because it's true
that ignorance is bliss
who are they
where are they
how can they
know all this
And I'm sorry so sorry
I'm sorry we do this
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