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Then all is lost!
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9:16 PM 5/22/1996

Newsletter excerpts offer ammunition to Paul's opponent
GOP hopeful quoted on race, crime

By ALAN BERNSTEIN
Copyright 1996 Houston Chronicle Political Writer

Texas congressional candidate Ron Paul's 1992 political newsletter highlighted portrayals of blacks as inclined toward crime and lacking sense about top political issues.

Under the headline of "Terrorist Update," for instance, Paul reported on gang crime in Los Angeles and commented, "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

Paul, a Republican obstetrician from Surfside, said Wednesday he opposes racism and that his written commentaries about blacks came in the context of "current events and statistical reports of the time."

Selected writings by Paul were distributed Wednesday by the campaign of his Democratic opponent, Austin lawyer Charles "Lefty" Morris.

Morris said many of Paul's views are "out there on the fringe" and that his commentaries will be judged by voters in the November general elections.

Paul said allegations about his writings amounted to name-calling by the Democrats and that his opponents should focus instead on how to shrink government spending and reform welfare.

Morris and Paul are seeking the 14th Congressional District seat held by Greg Laughlin of West Columbia. Laughlin lost the Republican primary to Paul, a former congressman and the Libertarian Party's 1988 presidential candidate.

Paul, writing in his independent political newsletter in 1992, reported about unspecified surveys of blacks.

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action,"Paul wrote.

Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered "as decent people." Citing reports that 85 percent of all black men in the District of Columbia are arrested, Paul wrote:

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal," Paul said.

Paul also wrote that although "we are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."

A campaign spokesman for Paul said statements about the fear of black males mirror pronouncements by black leaders such as the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who has decried the spread of urban crime.

Paul continues to write the newsletter for an undisclosed number of subscribers, the spokesman said.

Writing in the same 1992 edition, Paul expressed the popular idea that government should lower the age at which accused juvenile criminals can be prosecuted as adults.

He added, "We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."

Paul also asserted that "complex embezzling" is conducted exclusively by non-blacks.

"What else do we need to know about the political establishment than that it refuses to discuss the crimes that terrify Americans on grounds that doing so is racist? Why isn't that true of complex embezzling, which is 100 percent white and Asian?" he wrote.

In later newsletters, Paul aimed criticism at the Israeli government's U.S. lobbying efforts and reported allegations that President Clinton used cocaine and fathered illegitimate children.

Stating that lobbying groups who seek special favors and handouts are evil, Paul wrote, "By far the most powerful lobby in Washington of the bad sort is the Israeli government" and that the goal of the Zionist movement is to stifle criticism.

Relaying a rumor that Clinton was a longtime cocaine user, Paul wrote in 1994 that the speculation "would explain certain mysteries" about the president's scratchy voice and insomnia.

"None of this is conclusive, of course, but it sure is interesting," he said.


Consider the source it is spin but those are his quotes.
Fri May 25, 2007 7:44 pm
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Anyone elected, who has no ties to the Bush family and administration,
is a good person.

By all means be apart of a secret society, but thats somewhat needed,
if your going to be a leader.

Life is like snakes and ladders. Ladders are cool, but you can also use the snakes,
to your advantage.

Causing harm to someone, mentally or physically seems to be 'their' goal,
Ron Paul (to my knowledge) does not cause nasty shit to happen.
Fri May 25, 2007 8:45 pm
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Anyone elected, who has no ties to the Bush family and administration,
is a good person.


Were you drunk when you wrote that or do you seriously mean it?
Fri May 25, 2007 8:52 pm
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madthumbs wrote:
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Anyone elected, who has no ties to the Bush family and administration,
is a good person.


Were you drunk when you wrote that or do you seriously mean it?


I think you know what I mean.
Sat May 26, 2007 9:07 am
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There's too many variables to what a good person is in this system.

Every part of me tells me Ron Paul can't be trusted. Even if by some miracle he was voted in, would it change anything for all the other countries in the world which are dominated by Zionist policy and media? It's all got to go! To a certain extent the president has almost no power anymore. I strongly believe the only way things will change is if we make them change, it is naive to place hope on Ron Paul who so many liars are promoting, he seems like damage control personified.
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Ron Paul's remarks about young black males and crime are viewed as racist by people who understand that skin color has nothing whatsoever to do with crime. That's a no brainer. Poverty, single parent families, inner city ghettos, barrios and projects like Cabrini Green or neighborhoods like Bedford-Stuyvesent and South Central Los Angeles, the pressure to join gangs or die, the lack of educational quality and motivation, the influence of media, the organized crime drug distributors who use poor black and Hispanic youth as their runners and dealers, hopelessness and anger among the students who definitely have been getting left behind for over 200 years and the ignorant, prejudiced and racially biased comments of their leaders
have all contributed highly to both the myth and reality of disproportionate crime among the poor and racially/ethnically darker skinned people of the USA.


If an inner city youth gets arrested for shop lifting or simple possession and has no bail, no parental support, no attorney and a rich white judge who fears "negroes" because he is totally isolated from them (except where they all appear as criminals before him in court) gets a much different verdict and sentence than a suburban teenager with all of the advantages money and white skin can buy.

The playing field has never been level in America for people of color and it may take another 200 years of racial mixing and blending before the color bias fades from American society. Ron Paul (like all the rich white candidates of the NWO he opposes) needs to rub some sun tan lotion on his neck and get with the times. Racial stereotyping and profiling of black youth is not a smart move for a marginal candidate....no matter how much I love him compared to the Reptile assbags he shares the stage with!

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:34 pm
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I wonder why the White Nationalists aren't supporting Kucinich:


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From:
http://www.atlantaprogressivenews.com/views/0024-views.html

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RICHARD SEARCY: The Ron Paul that Ron Paul Doesn't Want You to Know

(June 03, 2007)

Presidential candidate US Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), a Republican with Libertarian views, is making a name for himself by emerging as an antiwar Republican in the 2008 race for the White House.

While those of us who oppose the mindless US Invasion of Iraq welcome all voices of opposition, there are some troubling questions arising about Mr. Paul.

US Rep. Paul has been consistent in his opposition to the invasion, but he hasn’t been very vocal or visible about that opposition. Most Americans knew nothing about Mr. Paul before this election season or had no idea such an animal as an antiwar Republican even existed.

Where was he years ago when his voice of opposition would not only have been more appreciated, it would have been much more beneficial to this nation, before being antiwar was popular and carried far more political risks?

Being that he’s an antiwar Republican, which makes him somewhat of an anomaly, surely he could have found and exploited opportunities to be more vocal and visible with his stance.

There were other politicians such as former US Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA), the late US Sen. Paul Wellstone (D-MN), US Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), Ralph Nader, and others who were known for their opposition to the US Invasion of Iraq.

Why didn’t Mr. Paul stand with any of them? Why didn’t he appear at antiwar demonstrations or stand with other non-politicians who were against the Invasion?

Even more troubling are his past comments on racial minorities and his association with the John Birch Society. Paul is the only Congressperson to receive a 100% approval rating from the Birchers. His MySpace page links directly to the John Birch Society.

He has also been attributed to comments such as these which appeared in his newsletter, the Ron Paul Survival Report:

"If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

"Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action"

"Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,' I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal"

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such."

"We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."

He called former US Rep. Barbara Jordan (D-TX) a “fraud” and a “half-educated victimologist.”

Paul also claimed former President Bill Clinton not only fathered illegitimate children, but that he also used cocaine which "would explain certain mysteries" about the President's scratchy voice. "None of this is conclusive, of course, but it sure is interesting,” he said.

When challenged on those remarks he blamed them on an aide that supposedly wrote them for his newsletter over a period of years. Are we to assume that he hadn't read his own newsletter?

His newsletter with his name on it.

When challenged by the NAACP and other civil rights groups for an apology for such racist remarks, Paul simply said his remarks about Barbara Jordan related to her stands on affirmative action and that his written comments about Blacks were in the context of “current events and statistical reports of the time.” He denied any racist intent.

Lock up Black children, only Black children, but he meant nothing racist. Sure.

It isn’t just Blacks that Paul has a problem with; it’s also Asians, homosexuals, Jews, women, fornication, gambling, and the stock market.

I have a 13 year-old nephew and I certainly wouldn’t want the President of the United States trying to convince America that he’s dangerous simply because he’s Black and can run fast.

The Ron Paul Express needs much closer and thorough examination before those who champion his antiwar stance jump on-board.

Richard Searcy is a Staff Writer and Columnist with Atlanta Progressive News. Searcy was previously a press spokesperson for US Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA).

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Do you have any of these news letters? I would like to read them in context. It seems that no one can produce them, yet quote from them and attribute them to Ron Paul. He apparently denies that he wrote them.

So provide them and I will be likely to believe. But to me this seems that it may be an attempt much like the quotes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

see this article:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740

they are associating the writings to Ron Paul, however provide no proof. So bring the Proof!

Also can anyone provide me evidence that Ron Paul is a member of JBS or just says that some of their work is informative.
Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:13 am
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Topic Split: http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6599
-Don't need the waste of time hot air here.
Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:53 am
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postcardsfrompalestine wrote:
Do you have any of these news letters? I would like to read them in context. It seems that no one can produce them, yet quote from them and attribute them to Ron Paul. He apparently denies that he wrote them.


He apparently accepted responsibility for them. If you had a paper going out in your name, with statements by you; wouldn't you at least check the statements?

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So provide them and I will be likely to believe. But to me this seems that it may be an attempt much like the quotes of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.


I believe it's English word for word quotes; no translation errors.

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Also can anyone provide me evidence that Ron Paul is a member of JBS or just says that some of their work is informative.


If I supported the KKK, would it matter if I was an actual member or not. If someone else wants to dig up the evidence; cool, but I feel like this is wasting my time. Who's to say Ron Paul wasn't placed? "He has a good voting record" - How hard would that be to do with vote fraud? Suppose he/ they knew that his votes wouldn't do a thing, so they quietly built him up in the background for this event.

Keep in mind: I'm not telling people to not vote for him. My goal is to get people to stop thinking of him as the solution because I'm sure he's not.
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Keep in mind: I'm not telling people to not vote for him. My goal is to get people to stop thinking of him as the solution because I'm sure he's not.


Lets just say he does get elected. What the hell is he going to do against a mostly corrupt Congress and a bought and paid for Supreme Court?
Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:36 am
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Ron Paul wants to abolish the Federal Reserve in favor of the Gold Standard. - Who has all the gold? Wink
Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:55 am
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