Another Plane Crashes Into NYC Building -Was This Designed?

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More "Shock And Awe"

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/11/plane.crash/index.html

Yankees pitcher's plane crashes into Manhattan high-rise
POSTED: 5:23 p.m. EDT, October 11, 2006

Story Highlights• NEW: Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle only person aboard plane, FBI said

• Lidle's passport found on street below crash site
• Emergency call from plane indicated a possible fuel problem
• FDNY confirms at least one person was killed

Video from the scene shows at least three apartments in the high-rise engulfed in flames.

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle was the sole person aboard the plane that crashed Wednesday into a high-rise apartment building in New York, FBI officials told CNN.

Emergency responders found his passport in the street below, the officials said.

The small airplane was a Cirrus SR-20 registered to Lidle, 34, said Yankees manager Joe Torre.(Watch witness accounts of cascading fireballs and a plane split in half -- 1:58 )

There was a mayday, FAA reports, from the pilot involving a problem with fuel before the aircraft crashed into the 50-story high-rise on Manhattan's East Side.

One other person was reportedly killed, according to the New York City Fire Department and New York City Police Department.

Flames shot out from several windows midway up the luxury high-rise in a residential neighborhood. Paramedics and rescue workers are treating people on the ground.

The Federal Aviation Administration described the plane as a "general aviation" fixed-wing aircraft flying under visual flight rules, meaning a pilot was flying by visual landmarks. (Watch the orange flames ravage the apartment -- 1:50)

The plane hit the Belaire Condominiums at 524 E. 72nd Street near the East River. More than 150 firefighters are on scene of a four-alarm fire in the building.

Immediately after the crash NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) said it had put fighter aircraft into the air over numerous U.S. cities, though they said they had no reason to believe the event in New York was anything more than an accident, sources told CNN's Barbara Starr. NORAD did the same thing after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

NORAD Admiral Timothy Keating told CNN within an hour after the crash that the agency believed terrorism was not involved.

Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs New York area airports said he had "no idea where [the plane] came from."

"We haven't heard from any of our facilities that anything's missing," said Coleman.

New York City government source told CNN there are "no indications of terrorism."

The FAA placed a one-mile flight restriction around the site of the crash, but New York area airports were not affected.

A senior U.S. official in Washington said the administration was waiting for more information.

Witness Henry Neimark, who is also a pilot, said he saw a plane flying at relatively low altitude which seemed to come from LaGuardia International Airport.

"It looked to me in retrospect that this was a pilot desperately trying to get back to the airport and land safely on a runway," he said.

"The fire was raging out of two windows," witness Sarah Steiner told CNN. "It looks like the plane just flew into someone's living room."

Steiner said fires were burning on the ground. "It looks like the plane just flew into someone's living room there."

"It looks as if the aircraft didn't go into the building but fell down," she said. "It may be part of the debris burning on the ground."

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	Lidle's passport found on street below crash site

This seems a bit too 9/11 minus the collapse.

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From what I see the plane had a major malfunction for the pilot and his instructor to both loose control of this little plane. These small planes can normally be landed safely under no power - they are designed that way

I also see the jew media is trying to manipulate the goyim through it's sinister network into beleiving it was more thenf that. To create terror and scare the public at the expense of the dead and their grieving families. The media is pathetic and evil.

People need to wake up!

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I know it's purely coincidink but there is an eleven thingy in the date.

10/11/2006

1+0+1+1+2+6=11

11/10/2006

11 is a master number then 1+2+6=9
11/9

didn't the twin towers represent jachin and Boaz (sp) or 11

bandhead

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The "passport" event made me think this is a designed case.

1. Timing. This is October, one month before mid-term election. Bush administration face a growing up untrustworthy of public. More people believe 911 was an government inside job.

2. Motive. To cover up the 911 flaw. Many people thought 911 leader Atta's passport was a plant. This case repeat the event to convince people that a passport survive from an impact and a huge fire is common. But do you bring your passport with you when you take a domestic travel? A drive license is enough for such a tour. Both Atta and Lidle took a domestic travel.

There might be a chance for the survival of the passport if Atta and Lidle put their passport on the pilot deck instead of put it in their pocket or in the travel bags. But have you ever seen people behave in such way?

3. A small plane is easier to handle then a big commercial air plane. Its speed is much slower than a commercial plane. To turn around a plane should be a basic operation for a pilot. How could a pilot with one year experience and a fly instructor not know it? A mistake impossible to take place.

4. Purpose of the plot. The accident resembles 911. In election time, to remind people of the terror attack happened 5 years ago. Bush is said doing nothing good but having only led in poll that he is tuff against terrorist. (though the terror attack were activated by his own group in the name of terrorists)
The accident will help GOP in coming election.

5. Another possible purpose is to justify a coming terror attack. There is reason for Bush group to organize another terror attack to keep grabing the control of Capital Hill. So if there is such an attack happens, government will say, see, for a small plane, we can hardly do anything on it. Or, more likely, they shoot down the "perpetrator's plane" and declare a victory aganist terrorists. All words are from a unilateral side. Because in all these cases, so said "terrorists" were dead. (911 attack, Madrid bombing, London bombing) That's why the media is so prefer about "suicide bombing " report. How easy is it? Just employ a poverty, tell him to deliver a bag to the target area. Plant a remote control bomb inside the bag. Then a "suidide bombing" is done.

6. For a propaganda purpose, a celibrity was shoosen. So people will set their eyes on it. Unfortunatly, Lidle was choosen in this case.
We can see same tactic was used in Michael Jackson case. Michael Jackson was arrested the same day when Bush visited London. It was used to distract public's attention from the humiliation of Bush. Bush met with a historical big protest of British people in London for his war crime. Jackson quitted the charge later.

We also can see it in recent Karr's case. Intelligence applied Jon Ramsey Benet
case on Kar to cause the attention all over the country. Kar was freed on DNA evidence. The purpose of the case is to convince people that DNA will decisive in the case. For the propaganda, they borrowed famous Jon Ramsey Benet case.

7. The possible method of the plot.
We know drone is largely used in Afghan war and Iraq war. The news once reported Bin Laden was killed in a drone's missle attack. The remote control skill is now a popular technique.

911 attack was practised in this way. So did in the Lidle's tragedy.
The only thing they did was to install a remote control panel inside the Lidle's plane. Once the plane was in the air, what they did was to cut the manual control and let the remote control panel take over the pilot.

Whatever Lidle and the flight instructor try to do resulted nothing. They had to eye their plane flying to the building. They even couldn't escape by emergent kit because they lost control of the plane.

8. The big question here is: If a pilot with one year's experience , with a flight instrutor on board could not handle a low speed small plane, how could those Arabic flight school students pilot the modern, high speed, much complex commercial planes to hit their targets accurately? None missed his target?

Think with your brain.

Quote, "Stephen M. St. John
Precursors to Remote-Controlled Flights of 9/11?
Tue May 2, 2006 18:17

The 9/11 Commissioners ignored indications of remote control piloting of the jets of 9/11 brought forward by retired Army Colonel Donn de Grand Pre (among others), who had convened within days of 9/11 a meeting of military, commercial and civilian aviators and experts. Their conclusions, which De Grand Pre reported to the highest levels of the Pentagon, were that the jets of 9/11 could not possibly have been flown the way they were flown by Arab flight students and that the best explanation for these flights was that they were flown by remote control during the peak activities of multiple NORAD drills.

http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?disc=149495;article=100918;title=APFN;pagemark=40

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kathaksung is a genius. Wow, you brought up some points that even I couldn't think of. Thank you for sharing them. Very impressive. America needs more people like this who actually thinks.

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What a bunch of conspiracy nonsense. It was just a plane crash. Bush didn't do it as he will get no poll bounce. The Republicans will get no help from it in the election. It will not make us rethink that Iraq is an obvious mistake. So why in the world would the president or anyone in the government bother with such a plot? You people have over active imaginations.

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One other point, why didn't the building collapse? we had a case of burning aviation fuel and a steel framed building..so why didn't it implode?

Guess there was no thermite or RDX in that building Confused

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fake_fakerson, care to debunk kathaksung's points one by one since you're so convinced? I'd be very very surprised if you can do it logically.

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Ok let the debunking begin.

1. Timing. The statement make no real sense. The crash will not help the administration or the republicans at all. It will not enter into anyone’s mind when they vote. Nor will it affect whether or not someone believes it was an inside job.

2. Suggesting that the distraction set up this crash for the purpose of showing that a passport can survive a plane crash is ludicrous on its face. One may not need a passport for domestic travel. That does not mean one would not carry a passport. Many people carry a passport for Identification purposes. As a passport is considered a better form of ID. Also Celebrities and the rich may travel outside the U.S. on a whim so carrying a passport everywhere for a rich baseball player is not that uncommon I would believe.

3. A small plane may be easier to handle than a big commercial plane. It does not matter. It is incorrect logic to suggest that just because the small plane is should be easier to turn that human error is impossible. The two things have nothing to do with one another. Human error is never impossible.

4. Same as #1 the It will not help the GOP in the upcoming election. Could you point to any polls that suggests it has? Also it is more likely to hurt them in that it has been 5 years and the GOP has focused on Iraq, and we are still vulnerable to plane attacks at home. Your logic is flawed.

5. There is no reason to justify a possible future terrorist attack. Your insinuate that the administration plans a future attack but offer as proof this unrelated incident as proof. We live in a society that is still very free. We understand that suicide bombers can if they wish attack us at will. They don’t even need to be suicide bombers. Tim Micvey, or the Unabomber showed that we are never safe. Your argument has no evidence and is ultra paranoid.

6. What propogana was Lidle used for? Simply saying he was used for propaganda offers nothing but paranoia. These are silly arguments. The Jackson case had begun even before Bush took office. Bush had nothing to with the Prosecution of either Jackson or Karr. Offer evidence if you want other to believe otherwise.

7. Offer at least some evidence for your claim. Your simple wild accusation is not evidence of a conspiracy. Argumentum ad ignorantiam is not logic.

8. The big question? Small planes crash all the time, and in fact are quite dangerous when compared to large modern commercial jets. Large modern jets have been landed by passengers with no flight training what so ever in emergency situation with radio instruction from the flight control tower. Also, the terrorists did go to flight school as you admitted.

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I have obviously debunked that post. No one dares challenge me.

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those 11's..

the india one on 7/11 was like a joke about kwiky marts..

there's been 9/11, 7/11, 5/11, 3/11

he was a PITCHER

didn't mention that.. a yankees pitcher

remote-control pitching

like they're playing a big game of baseball.

and yeah another magic passport.

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An internet comrade mentioned this to me about this plane crash.

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	10 / 11 / 06 Reverse Flip from right to left 09 / 11 / 01 Cory Lidle = March 22 1972 = 322 Skull & Bones = 322

Stoneskull, good eye on the 11 popping up once again.

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look at that..

911 upside down.

they're making jokes.

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Well if you could read what else this guy has told me, you'd see he isn't normally joking about trying to bust codes and how he rails against the jesuits and the zionists. By the way, here is what Wes Penre had to say about "11".
http://www.illuminati-news.com/11.htm

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	there's been 9/11, 7/11, 5/11, 3/11

New York, Mumbai, ? and Madrid. What is 5/11 supposed to be for.