I myself have a question for you Madthumbs in regards to you yourself engaging in tactics of disinfo.
I first brought this up in this thread about a recut of 911 Mysteries you did.
You cut out a segment featuring Alex Jones and uploaded the recut version withour disclosing what was cut and why.
You actually agreed that that was not the best way to go about it.
I suggested that you should have left the Alex Jones material in, mentioned it, and used that as an opportunity to link to your Alex exposed page.
Now something similar has happened with an Alex Jones video.
You have made your own version of this video with the Alex Jones comments removed from the end and the infowars graphic replaced with a graphic advertising this site.
what I find interesting is I am addressing this in a thread that began with someone addressing the fact that you get upset when people don't link back to you.
So basically, you are doing the same thing for which you get upset with other people.
I ask again, why not just leave the Alex Jones stuff in and comment on that separately?
I understand that the Dateline report was not his own, but he didn't try to cover up where he got it either.
I originally questioned you on this issue via private message on MySpace, and you responded via a comment on
with the link to the Alex exposed page, a question of whether I question him of the same thing, and a statement that you can't do PM's through MySpace.
To answer your question about Alex, I have questioned him a bot lately, but not directly.
I am unable to call in to the show because I work through it, but perhaps I should pose some questions to him via MySpace comments or e-mail.
I don't know if he'll respond since he's so busy (at least that's the excuse he gives).
As for you, Madthumbs, I do think you have some interesting stuff here.
I haven't been able to look at a lot of it simply because life tends to get in the way, but I am interested in examining the information here related to health and religion.
Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:02 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8185 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
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Now something similar has happened with an Alex Jones video.
Disinfo is calling it an Alex Jones video.
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You have made your own version of this video with the Alex Jones comments removed from the end and the infowars graphic replaced with a graphic advertising this site. You have made your own version of this video with the Alex Jones comments removed from the end and the infowars graphic replaced with a graphic advertising this site.
what I find interesting is I am addressing this in a thread that began with someone addressing the fact that you get upset when people don't link back to you.
I'm mostly bothered by people putting content directly on myspace keeping people to themselves and on a Zionist owned site which does censor. These people are often stealing bandwidth and content for the benefit of myspace (Zionists). What I did to the video is nothing different than what Alex Jones himself does, so why are you here criticizing me publicly for doing to him (who is disinfo); what he does to others? This isn't about simply sharing documentaries; it's about people working for the Zionists as opposed to supporting the non-zionist sites.
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I ask again, why not just leave the Alex Jones stuff in and comment on that separately?
I don't believe Alex Jones' comments were a part of the original film were they? What if 20 other people added their stupid commentary? Would it be wrong for me to do it then? Do I want to waste people's time on Alex Jones needlessly?
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I understand that the Dateline report was not his own, but he didn't try to cover up where he got it either.
Do you honestly think he comes up with all this stuff on his own? Alex is one of the WORST offenders when it comes to undermining others. For example; someone comes out with a Waco documentary, then he jumps all over it and get's his disinfo minions to spam his documentary instead (keep in mind the groundwork was already done). It's amusing that you're criticizing me for censoring Alex of all people.
Sorry, poor word choice.
It was a video taken from the Alex Jones show.
He obviously didn't produce the Dateline piece, he just brought it to light and commented on it.
My mistake, but I think you get what I meant.
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What I did to the video is nothing different than what Alex Jones himself does, so why are you here criticizing me publicly for doing to him
I wasn't trying to defend Alex, but I don't think that just because he does it that it makes it right for someone else to.
As for me questioning you publicly, I tried to question you privately, but you chose to leave a public comment on my page as a response.
I don't mind that you did that, but you didn't offer me an alternative method of private inquiry, so I followed your lead and took it public here.
Fair is fair.
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I don't believe Alex Jones' comments were a part of the original film were they? What if 20 other people added their stupid commentary? Would it be wrong for me to do it then? Do I want to waste people's time on Alex Jones needlessly?
The point was you were reposting a video that someone got from the Alex Jones show.
Forget for a minute that it was the Alex Jones show and consider the fact that it was from someone's show.
You put your graphic over someone else's as if you had your own show which you don't which made it seem as if it was you that was bringing the Dateline piece to light.
In essence, you were covering up how you found it.
Please don't see this as an attack and an attempt to "expose" you.
I'm just inquiring into your method of delivery.
Like I said before, I think you have some interesting stuff here the seems worth checking out, I just want to know that you're not misrepresenting things like you accuse others of doing.
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For example; someone comes out with a Waco documentary, then he jumps all over it and get's his disinfo minions to spam his documentary instead (keep in mind the groundwork was already done).
Out of curiosity, what Waco documentary are you referring to?
I'm not familiar with it.
Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:30 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8185 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
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He obviously didn't produce the Dateline piece, he just brought it to light and commented on it.
I've done nothing different than what he did with it.
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I wasn't trying to defend Alex, but I don't think that just because he does it that it makes it right for someone else to.
So your intention is to demonize me for doing to someone what they do to others?
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As for me questioning you publicly, I tried to question you privately, but you chose to leave a public comment on my page as a response.
You know I can't respond on myspace with anything but public replies. You were disrespectful for bringing it up there when you obviously have pm here, and my email address you could have used.
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Fair is fair.
Where's your non-myspace self funded public access website where I can address you?
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The point was you were reposting a video that someone got from the Alex Jones show.
The video had NOTHING to do with Alex Jones. It was dateline's video. Dateline didn't get anymore credit than Alex did. It's obvious you're just a PR guy for Alex Jones.
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You put your graphic over someone else's as if you had your own show which you don't which made it seem as if it was you that was bringing the Dateline piece to light.
Any contribution Alex made to the show was removed. He had put his graphic over THEIR work; He had no part in the video I posted. It is me bringing the piece to light to the people that see if here. You're putting your name and graphic all over my site while hypocritically bashing it. Where's your site so I can do likewise? (myspace is not your site).
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Please don't see this as an attack and an attempt to "expose" you.
There's no exposing.. just blatant PR for dis-info Alex Jones, and an unwelcome waste of my time addressing.
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I'm just inquiring into your method of delivery.
Commercials are what pays for television. Did Alex Jones leave the commercials in to give credit to the people that brought this to light?
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Like I said before, I think you have some interesting stuff here the seems worth checking out, I just want to know that you're not misrepresenting things like you accuse others of doing.
I'm not misrepresenting a thing with that video, and you can quit pretending to kiss ass. It's clear what you're doing here.
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Out of curiosity, what Waco documentary are you referring to?
I'm not familiar with it.
Don't come here ignorantly bashing then asking for favors. We do have a search engine on the forum and vlog.
So your intention is to demonize me for doing to someone what they do to others?
Like I said before, I was not trying to bash you or demonize you.
I was just questioning something you did and it appears that we will have to agree to disagree.
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You know I can't respond on myspace with anything but public replies. You were disrespectful for bringing it up there when you obviously have pm here, and my email address you could have used.
I originally tried to question you privately, but went about it the wrong way and did not consider other ways to do so.
I apologize for that.
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Any contribution Alex made to the show was removed. He had put his graphic over THEIR work; He had no part in the video I posted. It is me bringing the piece to light to the people that see if here. You're putting your name and graphic all over my site while hypocritically bashing it. Where's your site so I can do likewise? (myspace is not your site).
By posting on your public message board and asking questions, I am putting my name and graphic all over it?
I don't follow you on that one.
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There's no exposing.. just blatant PR for dis-info Alex Jones, and an unwelcome waste of my time addressing.
I can assure you that I am a PR guy for no one and you are misunderstanding my intent.
Perhaps I misunderstand you as well.
That is why I aks the questions, see, to clear things up.
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and you can quit pretending to kiss ass. It's clear what you're doing here.
Not kissing ass, just trying to compliment.
I'm sorry if you do not appreciate that.
After giving this some thought, I've decided that it was petty to pick on you for something so small, so for that I apologize.
In the future, I will just try to stick to agreeing where I agree and disagreeing where I disagree.
Alex is one of the WORST offenders when it comes to undermining others. For example; someone comes out with a Waco documentary, then he jumps all over it and get's his disinfo minions to spam his documentary instead (keep in mind the groundwork was already done). It's amusing that you're criticizing me for censoring Alex of all people.