As far as religions go, all of them advocate homosexuality. It was considered more honorable for a man to have sex with another man as an act of love than it was to have sex with a woman for the purpose of reproduction. In those times, we were a last resort. Throughout history women have always been given a bad rap. For centuries we have been the targets of witch trials, gang rapings, sterilization, hormonal experiments to name a few. Women had often been locked up in sanitariums because men did not understand that women have a greater range of emotions. Men seem to fear what they don't understand and more often than not men hate what they fear. Of course mad men were few and far between in those days, it was always the women who were insane. Take for instance, the medical term hysteria, the root hyst- comes from the greek word for uterus. Even in eastern religion feminine energy is negative. Yin: female, dark, negative, moon. Yang: male, light, positive, sun. I don't understand why females are regarded as inferiors. Men usually institute such things as war and death. Women bring forth new life. Why are we the evil ones?
Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:14 pm
Mystica
Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 226 Location: Australia
Dirt Poor wrote:
As far as religions go, all of them advocate homosexuality. It was considered more honorable for a man to have sex with another man as an act of love than it was to have sex with a woman for the purpose of reproduction.. Throughout history women have always been given a bad rap. For centuries we have been the targets of witch trials, gang rapings, sterilization, hormonal experiments to name a few. Women had often been locked up in sanitariums because men did not understand that women have a greater range of emotions. Men seem to fear what they don't understand and more often than not men hate what they fear. Take for instance, the medical term hysteria, the root hyst- comes from the greek word for uterus. Even in eastern religion feminine energy is negative. Yin: female, dark, negative, moon. Yang: male, light, positive, sun. I don't understand why females are regarded as inferiors. Men usually institute such things as war and death. Women bring forth new life. Why are we the evil ones?
The reason religions demonized women was because men, who introduced religion, realized that women were more spiritual and braver than the males, they also feared the fact that women thought and acted from both hemispheres of the brain, men from only one. They may not have been aware of the hemispheres of the brain but they knew women could and did see both sides of a problem and therefore come to the correct conclusion, ie they could resolve a problem without resorting to violence, but were capable of both soft and hard decisions.
Religion was intended to control, so women had to be demonized by the physically strong, and humbled to ensure she didn't bugger up their plans to dominate all they surveyed.
Women (usually) are more spiritual than men, they are more open to their feelings and so have the ability to 'see the light', men were in the light so couldn't see into the darkness, men are hot women cool tempered. Hence Yin and Yang, dark and light, hot and cold up (men) and down (to earth) women. Men and women (Yin and Yang) are a complete package, the balance of life. Religion was designed to upset the balance in favour of those who wanted to be 'god'. They made adjustments over time to strengthen their hold over mankind and even made a mockery of 'god' by reversing the structure of living ...... and the word 'god' in reverse is ...? as is the word live is .... ?
Women had to be controlled differently to men so they were deemed 'unclean', crazy, witches, whores etc. The perpetrators of religion could not afford to have women reveal the truth if they were allowed to participate in secret mens business, or given credence in the 'church' (circe).
Sorry but Muhammed wasnt a child molester. no one knows for sure what age the girl was. Most scholars believe she was 15. But in that enviroment people start puberty at such a young age. And when you start puberty your an adult right? Its 18 by law, but really your an adult when you start puberty. I know a lot of Muslims whose parents married at the age of 11, 12 and 13. It isnt a strange or uncommon thing in that region.
Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:48 pm
Max David
Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 12 Location: Moorpark, CA
In Judaism:
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Sex is the woman's right, not the man's. A man has a duty to give his wife sex regularly and to ensure that sex is pleasurable for her. He is also obligated to watch for signs that his wife wants sex, and to offer it to her without her asking for it. The woman's right to sexual intercourse is referred to as onah, and is one of a wife's three basic rights (the others are food and clothing), which a husband may not reduce. The Talmud specifies both the quantity and quality of sex that a man must give his wife. It specifies the frequency of sexual obligation based on the husband's occupation, although this obligation can be modified in the ketubah (marriage contract). A man may not take a vow to abstain from sex for an extended period of time, and may not take a journey for an extended period of time, because that would deprive his wife of sexual relations. In addition, a husband's consistent refusal to engage in sexual relations is grounds for compelling a man to divorce his wife, even if the couple has already fulfilled the halakhic obligation to procreate.
Although sex is the woman's right, she does not have absolute discretion to withhold it from her husband. A woman may not withhold sex from her husband as a form of punishment, and if she does, the husband may divorce her without paying the substantial divorce settlement provided for in the ketubah.
Tuesday, February 28, 2006
The 72 Virgins Myth
By Muhammad Ridzwan Rahmat
Editor, Ewadah.com
The Myth: Muhammad Promised 72 Female Virgins for Martyrs.
The Truth: Prophet Muhammad has never made any promise on any kinds of sexual gratifications in the after life, much less on the alleged 72 virgins.
It seems to be the staple ammunition for attacking Islam. Mention the atrocities and suicide bombings that are being committed by Muslims around the world and you get the same response – they are doing it for the “virgins in heaven”.
In various Internet forums and conventional media, Muhammad has been accused of luring foot soldiers, past and present, with promise of eternal copulation in the afterlife. In the process Islam has been tainted with a dubiously sexual tint. Islam seems to be the path where sex-hungry young men can end their lives into a promise of endless erotica.
The simple truth is, there is nothing in the Quran or Hadith that has ever promised this. Every Muslim knows it.
Muslims have never been cajoled into doing deeds for the religion in promise of posthumous sex. As Muslims, we must never condone suicidal activities that take away the lives of innocents. They are against the teachings of the Prophet. The vilification on the alleged “virgins of paradise” must be dismissed at all costs.
So how did the issue of the 72 virgins even come about?
It all started on August 19th, 2001 in CBS studios, USA. This was just a month before the 9/11 attacks.
The American TV network was broadcasting a program called 60 Minutes. It was featuring a special report on the militant group Hamas and included the translation of an interview between an American journalist and the Hamas functionary Muhammad Abu Wardeh. In the interview, Abu Wardeh was describing how martyrs will be accompanied by the “hur’ain” in heaven.
At issue in this interview was the correct meaning of the Arabic word “hur’ain”. Translated to English, it means ‘angels’, with no gender connotations whatsoever. But the translators at CBS insisted that it means ‘virgins’. It carried on and broadcasted the translation as such.
Arabs all over the United States spotted the faulty translation and protested to the TV network. Three experts of the Arabic languages, including Dr. Mather Hathout of the Islamic Centre of Southern California and Hafiz al-Mirazi Osman, the head Al-Jazeera’s Washington made official efforts to correct the translation.
But CBS still insisted that it means ‘virgins’. The faulty translation was never amended. From then on Islam became known as the sexually perverted religion that promises 72 “virgins” for those who gave up their lives for it.
The faulty translation took pace after the 9/11 attacks. Websites all over the world, especially those from the USA, began carrying distorted "translations" of verses from the Quran that interpret the word "hur'ain" as "virgins.
Muslims around the world were potrayed as devotess who were into the religion solely for the promise of sex.
The damage was done and till today the faulty translation provides a sore point in the true understanding of Islam.
This myth is still rife today with various forms of distortions and connotations.
This article was first posted on the ewadah forum in 2005.
posted by Muhammad Ridzwan Rahmat at 2:03 PM
I do not justify the existence of this religion as it is a spin off of Judaism as Sigmund Freud himself said in "Moses and Monotheism." The similarities of Moses and Muhammad are quite amazing and the best part of the deal was that Muhammad gave Islam lots of land and riches unlike Moses who gave them hell in a desert. He even mentioned that it is very likely he was killed by his followers as well. A must read.
"Suicide Killers" - Islam is "Beautiful?"
On last night's "Daily Show," Jon Stewart hosted a French filmmaker named Pierre Rehov, whose recent creation "Suicide Killers" presents the views of would-be Muslim "bombers for God." Rehov stated that the suicide killers talked to his team because they believe that the French are "100% on their side." The absolute pathology of the individuals involved in this documentary is sickening, reflecting a psychotic indoctrination that can only be termed child abuse.
Although from his website Mr. Rehov is clearly appalled by this pathological attitude and behavior, he unfortunately repeated the disturbing and perilous platitude that it's not Islam but extremists who are the problem. Granted, extremists are a problem, but "innocent" Islam is not. Rehov went so far as to say that "Islam is a beautiful religion." In consideration of its history and all that we know about Islam, including widespread violence, torture and murder wherever it is found, we would really like to know exactly what is "beautiful" about Islam?
* Is the suppression and oppression - the torture - of women "beautiful?"
* Is the constant call for the deaths of infidels something "beautiful?"
* Is the repression of sex to the point of driving young men to want to kill themselves and others somehow "beautiful?"
None of this despicable and inhuman behavior is "extremist" within Islam - it is mainstream. In the future, it would be best to call these cheerleaders to the carpet when they blithely blather about Islam being "peaceful" or "beautiful." What exactly is "beautiful" about it?
I'm waiting to hear.
Fri May 04, 2007 5:50 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Here's something that bothers me:
Acharya wrote:
What is the "holocaust" that Rupert Murdoch is supporting? Palestine? Frankly, I'm not a big Palestinian supporter either. So long as Islam and its attendant anti-woman horrors reign supreme there, I'm not interested in trumpeting its glory. Israel I don't care much for either, but at least the secular society doesn't treat its women like shit, and honor killings are not an ingrained aspect of society.
Islam is Womankind's KKK. Period. It's got to go. I have NO tolerance for it, anymore than a black person should tolerate the KKK.
Geez thats a pretty harsh stance to take for her. I saw the rest of the thread and thought...isn't there enough anti-muslim propaganda out there. Her audience should already know the horrors of Islam. She also has a very pro woman bias as oppose to all human IMO. Oh well no one is perfect.
I think Islam is being demonised by the powers-that-be for a reason. 'Muslims' and 'Islamic' countries are being used as pawns in this big world game that we are witnessing at the moment. 'Jihadists' and many of these groups are just pawns of the NWO in instigating divisions and allowing divide-and-rule power structures to take place.
Original Christian gnostics and Muslim Sufi's were very different to the majority of so-called 'Muslims' in 'Islamic' countries we see today. Brainwashing and modification of scriptures, etc has had its tolls. Very few primordial spiritual traditions have survived the hands of the NWO....those that do tend to lean more towards the Indian subcontinent and Tibet. I mean....have u heard of a Buddhist Extremist? Lol. It's a contradiction in terms. So should be for all other 'religions'.
Fri May 04, 2007 9:14 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Religion serves one purpose: Control the masses.
Just because I'm not as familiar with Islam as Christianity: that doesn't mean I'm not aware of the purpose of religion. Islam serves as a hate target for Jews and Christians. It serves as testimony against suicide bombers. It oppresses women to a higher degree than it's own followers.
If Palestine and Iraq were atheist.. what would the US have as an excuse for invading? If Islam didn't exist, would Christians reflect on their own hateful female oppressing, racist, infant genital mutilating religion?
Just because I'm not as familiar with Islam as Christianity: that doesn't mean I'm not aware of the purpose of religion. Islam serves as a hate target for Jews and Christians. It serves as testimony against suicide bombers. It oppresses women to a higher degree than it's own followers.
If Palestine and Iraq were atheist.. what would the US have as an excuse for invading? If Islam didn't exist, would Christians reflect on their own hateful female oppressing, racist, infant genital mutilating religion?
Sadly, most Muslims do not even know what the true nature of their 'Islam' really is. It originally meant 'peace' and 'submission' to the One primordial reality. It became corrupted afterwards with the tribalism of the Arabs and the cultural additions of the time.
I dislike religion....although I do like some aspects of the spiritual traditions that come with some of them. They do seem to contradict the 'religion' that has built up around them.
