Jewish Racism towards Non-Jews as expressed in the Talmud

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"The modern Jew is the product of the Talmud..."
"Babylonian Talmud", published by the Boston Talmud Society, p. XII

The Jews refer to the remainder of Earths inhabitants, the non-Jewish peoples, as "Gentiles", "Goyim". Let's see what the Jewish Talmud teaches the Jews concerning the non-Jewish majority, i.e. those who are not part of Jahve's "Chosen People":

"The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts."

Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

"The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew."

Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

"Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therfore he will be served by animals in human form."

Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

"A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal."

Coschen hamischpat 405

"The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs."

Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

"Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human."

Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

"If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog."

Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

"If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died"."

Jore dea 377, 1

"Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals."

Talmud Sanhedrin 74b

"It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile."

Sepher ikkarim III c 25

"It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah."

Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands."

Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

"Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God."

Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772

- http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/toread/jewras.htm

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I don't follow any of these laws, and I am a Jew. And you shouldn't base what you think about a religion on their texts, you should base it on what they do. How many Jews have kept these laws and sayings in the real world?

There is a Jewish tradition called the 7 Noachide laws. Any non-Jew who keeps these laws is considered righteous:

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	http://www.aish.com/literacy/judaism123/The_7_Noachide_Laws.asp http://www.ahavat-israel.com/am/goyim.php http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahide_Laws

I agree with these laws, except that I don't really care if you curse God.

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	And you shouldn't base what you think about a religion on their texts

So we should ignore what most rational people would turn to as an authoritative resource on these religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) while these resources have been used throughout history to incite atrocities?

We have people calling Jesus "love", but if you read the book that they pimp; Jesus is a racially genocidal, slavery and rape endorsing, infant genital mutilator. Who do we believe? The delusional that overlook everything, or the book that's been used to spread the religion (it's root)? If we don't look at the root, then we can be divided into tens of thousands of disagreeing branches. There are 33,000+ denominations of Christianity that couldn't agree because of this!

By spreading and promoting these religions; people are spreading and promoting the sickness contained in the texts whether they accept them or not.

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I just saw this crazy man on public access here in Queens NY

http://opposingdigits.com/vlog/?p=1521

It amazes me what they let Jews get away with in this city. However if you criticize them you'll be all over the news.[/url]

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madthumbs wrote:

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	And you shouldn't base what you think about a religion on their texts

So we should ignore what most rational people would turn to as an authoritative resource on these religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) while these resources have been used throughout history to incite atrocities?

We have people calling Jesus "love", but if you read the book that they pimp; Jesus is a racially genocidal, slavery and rape endorsing, infant genital mutilator. Who do we believe? The delusional that overlook everything, or the book that's been used to spread the religion (it's root)? If we don't look at the root, then we can be divided into tens of thousands of disagreeing branches. There are 33,000+ denominations of Christianity that couldn't agree because of this!

By spreading and promoting these religions; people are spreading and promoting the sickness contained in the texts whether they accept them or not.

Religions change over time. There are many branches of Judaism now. Some Jews interpret the Bible literally. Some Jews don't even read it at all. You can't make a judgement about a religion when only some of the people follow the laws very strictly.

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	Religions change over time. There are many branches of Judaism now. Some Jews interpret the Bible literally. Some Jews don't even read it at all. You can't make a judgement about a religion when only some of the people follow the laws very strictly.

It's called white-washing and distorting; otherwise it would be called a newly made up, or create your own religion and call it Judaism. Then what happens... tens of thousands who don't agree on what it is.

Lets stick to what Judaism really is instead of what people try to tell us.

People try to say I'm an anti-Semite. I explain to them how they're misusing the term, then they twist the definition to mean anti-Judaism. Lets not play these silly word games and be clear on what we're saying. If one person doesn't *think* Judaism is racist, that doesn't mean that it's not.

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What is "real Judaism", then?

The term "anti-Semitism" means "Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism" (dictionary.com) (even though etymologically it doesn't make sense).

"1881, from Ger. Antisemitismus, first used by Wilhelm Marr in 1880, from anti- + Semite (q.v.). Not etymologically restricted to anti-Jewish theories, actions or policies, but almost always used in this sense. Those who object to the inaccuracy of the term might try H. Adler's Judaeophobia (1882)." - Online Etymology dictionary

What does anti-Judaism mean? Does it mean simply being against the ideas and traditions of Judaism?

I can't say that I think Judaism is completely not racist, but I know that Reform Judaism, at least, is not.

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What books are authoritative for reformed Judaism?

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What can't be accepted even by those who deny's religion in it's entirety is that ALL religions are racist, ALL religions have evolved and changed of the centuries ... NONE of them represent life or society as it was meant to be.

Pointing the finger and accusing one of doing what every other religion does (divide, and promote hate of differing 'opinions') is literally following religion and it's 'beliefs' .... you cannot accuse onother of racism and hate of others and not recognise it in every other religion.

Get over the religious BS and embrace the 'human race' ... constantly harping on Judaism promotes just as much hate as the 'so called Talmud' that isn't even read by most Jews unless provoked.

In the video "The other Israel" Ted Pike says himself that there are some Rabbis who have never read that book of the Talmud and many who didn't know it even existed until he and his counterparts found and exposed it.

Move away from religion altogether and study 'real' spirituality, and the wholesome way to THINK, and learn to love instead of hate. And accept that not everyone is going to have the same OPINION as your own.

Promoting hate is what the Super Elite do best and their best tool for that is religion ALL religions.

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	madthumbs wrote:
	What books are authoritative for reformed Judaism?

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Throughout history, Jews have remained firmly rooted in Jewish tradition, even as we learned much from our encounters with other cultures. Nevertheless, since its earliest days, Reform Judaism has asserted that a Judaism frozen in time is an heirloom, not a living fountain. The great contribution of Reform Judaism is that it has enabled the Jewish people to introduce innovation while preserving tradition, to embrace diversity while asserting commonality, to affirm beliefs without rejecting those who doubt, and to bring faith to sacred texts without sacrificing critical scholarship.

Reform Judaism affirms the central tenets of Judaism - God, Torah and Israel - even as it acknowledges the diversity of Reform Jewish beliefs and practices. We believe that all human beings are created in the image of God, and that we are God’s partners in improving the world. Tikkun olam — repairing the world — is a hallmark of Reform Judaism as we strive to bring peace, freedom, and justice to all people.

Reform Jews accept the Torah as the foundation of Jewish life containing God’s ongoing revelation to our people and the record of our people’s ongoing relationship with God. We see the Torah as God inspired, a living document that enables us to confront the timeless and timely challenges of our everyday lives.

In addition to our belief that Judaism must change and adapt to the needs of the day to survive and our firm commitment to Tikkun Olam, the following principles distinguish Reform Jews from other streams of Judaism in North America.

Reform Jews are committed to the principle of inclusion, not exclusion. Since 1978 the Reform Movement has been reaching out to Jews-by-choice and interfaith families, encouraging them to embrace Judaism. Reform Jews consider children to be Jewish if they are the child of a Jewish father or mother, so long as the child is raised as a Jew.

Reform Jews are committed to the absolute equality of women in all areas of Jewish life. We were the first movement to ordain women rabbis, invest women cantors, and elect women presidents of our synagogues.

Reform Jews are also committed to the full participation of gays and lesbians in synagogue life as well as society at large.

- http://rj.org/whatisrj.shtml

The Torah is authoritative, but each one of us can interpret it in his or her own way. So basically, there isn't really a completely authoritative book.

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Mystica wrote:

What can't be accepted even by those who deny's religion in it's entirety is that ALL religions are racist, ALL religions have evolved and changed of the centuries ... NONE of them represent life or society as it was meant to be.

Pointing the finger and accusing one of doing what every other religion does (divide, and promote hate of differing 'opinions') is literally following religion and it's 'beliefs' .... you cannot accuse onother of racism and hate of others and not recognise it in every other religion.

Get over the religious BS and embrace the 'human race' ... constantly harping on Judaism promotes just as much hate as the 'so called Talmud' that isn't even read by most Jews unless provoked.

In the video "The other Israel" Ted Pike says himself that there are some Rabbis who have never read that book of the Talmud and many who didn't know it even existed until he and his counterparts found and exposed it.

Move away from religion altogether and study 'real' spirituality, and the wholesome way to THINK, and learn to love instead of hate. And accept that not everyone is going to have the same OPINION as your own.

Promoting hate is what the Super Elite do best and their best tool for that is religion ALL religions.

Good post.
All religious people are racist to an extent, but of course, so are people who aren't religious. But from all the religions I've learned about, I'm pretty sure that Reform Judaism is the least racist of them all. I could be wrong, though.

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	Max David wrote:
	Good post. All religious people are racist to an extent, but of course, so are people who aren't religious. But from all the religions I've learned about, I'm pretty sure that Reform Judaism is the least racist of them all. I could be wrong, though.

I moved away from religion at a very early age because of the conflicting 'answers' to 'righteousness' religion provided, plus the fact that it promotes hateful attitudes that is covers up with 'love and light', often inappropriately.

Religion is the major factor in ALL wars and all conflicts, it is used like a weapon, and that is virtually what religion is, a weapon! it is also a ruse to control people from many diverse ideologies. If promotes fear of the unknown( which in turn promotes unreasonable hatred of the unknown), fear of death (unless you totally commit to a god or a saviour, ie the rules of a man written tome). It destroyed "self" esteem and promotes inferiority, conversly it promotes supremacism in being a 'follower' and a member of it's 'cult'. It promotes hate of a different religion (christianity for Judaism, Judaism for Islam, Islam for Judaism, Judaism for christianity et al).

Spirituality can take on all the positves of ALL religions without the control, without the hate, without the fear, it promotes self esteem by allowing one to 'think' and to act upon one's own conscience and not from 'propaganda'. People are more likely to "Do the right thing" if they know they alone are responsible for their actions, they alone are the 'culprits' and don't have scripture and misunderstood gospels from a man written tome to 'back them up'.

ANYTHING "organized" promotes 'organization' (control) ... of mind, body spirit.

Therefore a FREED spirit promotes responsibility for SELF control.

Namaste

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	The Torah is authoritative, but each one of us can interpret it in his or her own way. So basically, there isn't really a completely authoritative book.

To a rational person who interprets like a rational person, the Torah teaches racism and other disgusting ideals. What you're attempting to do whether you realize it or not is whitewash.

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madthumbs wrote:

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	The Torah is authoritative, but each one of us can interpret it in his or her own way. So basically, there isn't really a completely authoritative book.

To a rational person who interprets like a rational person, the Torah teaches racism and other disgusting ideals. What you're attempting to do whether you realize it or not is whitewash.

The Torah is the basis of the Christian bible, it is no worse or better than our own disgusting bible, saying otherwise is also a whitewash.

You have to remember there are many books that make up the Torah and what you are condemning is the book of LAWS from the Talmud.

No-one fully complies with their bible, not even christians, and they too can interpret their bible as they wish and we have seen what views, ideas and attitudes that can lead to.

Instead of attacking Jews who have a reasonable concept of the good from the religion, attack ALL religions and start pointing out the evil from within them all.

"Onward Christian Soldiers, marching as to WAR" Even our hymns glorify WAR.