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Mystica



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Hi Lana, Have you ever considered Chlorella as a detox solution?

Chlorella is effectively used for cases of Cadmium, and Mercury poisoning, I also used it in my cancer treatment (which I beat BTW) ... it's like a magnet that draws out toxins, it may help in silicon cases as well, and even if it doesn't work it's a great immune booster.

The therapeutic dosage of Chlorella for the treatment of Cancer is 8,000 - 12,000 mg (8 - 12 grams) per day. For other conditions the dosage is somewhat lower (e.g. 4,000 - 6,000 mg per day). The Cadmium treatment recommends 8 grams per day (8,000 mg).
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:32 pm
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madthumbs



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Chelating agents like Chlorella take the good minerals with the bad. They're good for maintenance in small doses or for emergencies. I'm pretty sure if you practice good hydration, and avoid sources; you'll pee out the excess silicon dioxide fast enough.
Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:55 pm
Mystica



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madthumbs wrote:
Chelating agents like Chlorella take the good minerals with the bad. They're good for maintenance in small doses or for emergencies. I'm pretty sure if you practice good hydration, and avoid sources; you'll pee out the excess silicon dioxide fast enough.


Chlorella is not a chelating agent, nor is it chelated. It does not remove minerals from the body only 'foreign' toxic substances. Chlorella is a form of Chlorophyll and considered a food.

Hydration can be a problem in itself if the water isn't pure and have an alkaline ph balance. PH balancing is one of the best things you can do for a sick body.

Chlorella delivers 100% pure Chlorella Vulgaris, when naturally cultivated in clean, unpolluted mineral-rich water without the use of herbicides, pesticides or fertilizers.

http://www.natures-balance.com/About_us/about_us.html

8x more chloryphyll than wheatgrass, 10x more than Spirilina. The chlorella plant is 60% protein, and the highest natural source of chlorophyll. Sun Chlorella tablets provide valuable nutrition in a convenient form for daily use. They also work to build the immune system naturally.

http://www.mercola.com/chlorella/index.htm

Health Benefits of Chlorella*

Powerful Aid for Detoxification of the Body*

Numerous research projects in the United States and Europe indicate that chlorella can aid the body in detoxification while strengthening the immune system response.* In Japan, interest in chlorella has focused largely on its detoxifying properties.

This detoxification in the blood will take 3-6 months to build up enough to begin this process depending on the dosage of chlorella a person is taking.* It is also this fibrous material that greatly augments healthy digestion and overall digestive track health.*

Chlorella plays a particularly crucial role in detoxification through stool.* Once detoxification occurs in the intestines, chlorella will effectively help to remove the impurities.*

How Does Chlorella Help Your Body?*

Chlorella is comprised of a fibrous, indigestible outer shell (20%) and its inner nutrients (80%). It is the fibrous material that has been proven to actually bind with impurities that can accumulate in our bodies.*

A clean bloodstream, with an abundance of red blood cells to carry oxygen, is necessary to a strong natural defense system.* Chlorella's cleansing action on the bowel and other elimination channels, as well as its support for the liver, helps keep the blood clean.* Clean blood assures that metabolic wastes are efficiently carried away from the tissues.*

Will Chlorella Help Iron Overload?

Chlorella will not help remove iron from the body. Chlorella contains iron and will actually raise iron levels. Although iron is an essential and important nutrient, excessive levels can cause significant harm.

Research has demonstrated a relationship between elevated iron and a number of diseases, including atherosclerosis, heart disease and type-2 diabetes. Iron appears to be a catalyst in the formation of dangerous free radicals - it is really an "anti-antioxidant", the exact opposite of an antioxidant.

Men tend to have higher iron stores than women; hence, they often have elevated iron levels. Pre-menopausal women are less likely to suffer from iron overload since they lose iron each month during menstruation. However, after menopause, women also tend to accumulate iron.

Measuring your iron levels is an important tool in maintaining optimal health anyway; however, I particularly recommend that men and post-menopausal women have their iron levels checked prior to using chlorella (or other iron-containing supplements). The best way to do this is through a measure of serum ferritin level in conjunction with total iron binding level.

Chlorophyll to Help You Process More Oxygen*

Chlorophyll is thought to cleanse the bowel and other elimination systems, such as the liver and the blood.

Chlorella Will Improve Your Digestive System*




People find that chlorella helps to freshen breath.* Stool smell is also improved and chlorophyll has been attributed to relieving occasional constipation.*

Chlorella supplements can speed up the rate of cleansing of the bowel, bloodstream and liver.*

Natural Digestive, and Other, Enzymes




Chlorophyllase and pepsin are digestive enzymes. Enzymes perform a number of important functions in the body.* In fact, you cannot even blink without the presence of enzymes.* It is essential that any algae you take is NOT freeze dried or pasteurized. If it is, then you have lost the crucial benefit of enzymes such as these.

Chlorella is One of the Most Scientifically Researched Supplements in History!

Click on the link above and you will find abstracts of a few of the peer-reviewed scientific articles documenting the health benefits of chlorella.* I have included a summary of the abstract with most of the articles.

Chlorella is Alkaline and Helps Promote a Healthy pH in Your Body*

It is important that we maintain a balance body pH of ideally about 7.2-7.4, which is about neutral. However, a poor diet of junk food, fast food, overcooked, and processed foods, especially soft drinks, which have a pH of 2.7, can affect the body's pH. The above foods are several thousand times more acidic than our bodies.

Chlorella can help promote a healthy pH level in your body.*

Increase Beneficial Good Bacteria in Your Intestine, Promote Fresh Breath and Decrease Occasional Constipation*

The fibrous materials in chlorella will also improve digestion and promote the growth of beneficial aerobic bacteria in the stomach.* This is something you will notice about chlorella soon after first taking it.

When you eat chlorella the beneficial bacteria in your intestinal tract, like Lactobacillus, multiplies at four times the normal rate.* This improves your digestion and your body's ability to take in nutrients greatly.* Proper digestion, augmented with the necessary enzymes, is one of the keys to your great health!*

* These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.
Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:41 pm
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What you're failing to realize here then is that Silicon is actually a good mineral. Like water: too much can kill you.

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chelation \chelation\ n.
the process of removing a heavy metal from a solution by
means of a chelate; as (Med.) the treatment of lead or
mercury poisoning by adding a chelating agent to the blood.
[WordNet 1.5 +PJC]


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Chlorella

Algae and other aquatic plants possess the capacity to take up toxic trace metals from their environment, resulting in an internal concentration greater than those of the surrounding waters.87 This property has been exploited as a means for treating industrial effluent containing metals before they are discharged, and to recover the bioavailable fraction of the metal.88


- http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm

Do you argue for the sake of arguing?
Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:54 pm
Mystica



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madthumbs wrote:
What you're failing to realize here then is that Silicon is actually a good mineral. Like water: too much can kill you.

I fail to realise 'nothing', I take silica gel on a daily basis.

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Health Benefits of Silicon

Aging & Life Extension

Silicon is credited with retarding the onset of some aspects of the Aging Process.

Cardiovascular System

Silicon alleviates Atherosclerosis and Atherosclerosis can occur as a result of Silicon deficiency [scientific research - humans: the quantity of Silicon in Arterial walls decreases as a consequence of Atherosclerosis]:

- Silicon is abundant in the Arteries of people who are free of Atherosclerosis.
- Silicon levels in Arteries decreases just prior to the development of the atherosclerotic plaques that occur in Atherosclerosis [scientific research].

Silicon is essential to the structural integrity, elasticity and permeability of Blood Vessels including Arteries.

Detoxification

Silicon facilitates the excretion of Aluminium from the body:

- Silicon converts Aluminium from both Water and other dietary sources into insoluble Hydroxyaluminosilicates which cannot enter the bloodstream or the Brain [scientific research - humans: when Sodium Silicate was added to the Water consumed by test subjects, their serum Aluminium content decreased by 85% within 1 hour and by 92% within 6 hours].

Digestive System

Silicon accelerates the healing of Gastric Ulcers.

Excretory System

Silicon alleviates Incontinence by strengthening the Bladder muscles [scientific research - humans: Silicon strengthens the Bladder muscles within 3 months of initial supplementation].
Silicon prevents excessive Perspiration.
Silicon accelerates the clearance of Waste Products from the body.

Hair/Nails/Skin

Silicon accelerates the healing of Dental Abscesses.
Silicon accelerates the healing of Acne.
Silicon accelerates the healing of Boils.
Silicon alleviates Eczema.
Silicon improves the health of the Epidermis of the Skin.

Silicon stimulates the production of Fibroblast Cells.
Silicon (especially the colloidal Silica form of Silicon applied topically or administered orally) improves Hair Condition [scientific research - females using 10 ml of liquid colloidal Silica exhibited improvement in hair condition after 90 days].
Hair Loss can occur as a result of Silicon deficiency and Silicon accelerates Hair Growth when the Hair Follicles are still alive.

Silicon improves the health of the Nails - many Nail disorders can occur as a result of Silicon deficiency [thousands of anecdotal reports].
Silicon may alleviate Psoriasis.
Silicon maintains the elasticity, firmness and strength of the Skin and is widely utilized in commercial topical Skin firming preparations for this purpose (due to Silicon being an essential component of Collagen).

- Silicon increases the thickness of the Dermis [scientific research - females using 10 ml of oral liquid colloidal Silicic Acid together with topical application of colloidal Silicic Acid exhibited thickening of the Dermis after 90 days].

Silicon (applied topically) accelerates the healing of Wounds.
Premature Wrinkles (including Stretch Marks after Pregnancy) can occur as a result of Silicon deficiency.

Immune System

Silicon improves the function of the Thymus Gland.

Musculoskeletal System

Silicon concentrates in and enhances the health and growth of Bones (retarded Bone development can occur as a result of Silicon deficiency) [scientific research - rats: following Silicon supplementation the Bones of rats were found to contain 20% more Calcium and 10% more Phosphorus than the Bones of non-supplemented rats].
Silicon is a component of Chondroblasts.

Silicon concentrates in and stimulates the formation of Cartilage - Silicon stimulates Chondroblasts to deposit Chondroitin Sulfate, Hyaluronic Acid and Keratin Sulfate onto Cartilage matrix.
Silicon maintains the health of Connective Tissues.
Silicon accelerates the healing Bone Fractures [scientific research].

Silicon facilitates the removal of the arthritic nodules and spurs that occur in conjunction with Osteoarthritis.
Silicon is an essential component of Osteoblasts.
Silicon (50 mg per day of the Orthosilicic Acid form of Silicon) alleviates Osteoporosis (by facilitating the incorporation of Calcium into Bones) [scientific research - humans].

Tendonitis can occur as a result of Silicon deficiency.

Metabolism

Silicon increases Stamina.

Nervous System

Silicon may retard the progression of Alzheimer's Disease (by facilitating the body's excretion of Aluminium).
Silicon alleviates Neuropathy.

Silicon Enhances the Function of these Substances

Minerals

Silicon enhances the body's utilization of Calcium and facilitates the incorporation of Calcium into Bones [scientific research].

Proteins

Silicon is an essential component of Collagen and supplemental Silicon (in the form of Orthosilicic Acid) increases the Collagen content of the Skin and Cartilage) [scientific research].

These Substances Enhance the Function of Silicon

Carbohydrates

Silicon stimulates Chondroblasts to deposit Chondroitin Sulfate (CSA) onto Cartilage matrix.
Silicon stimulates Chondroblasts to deposit Hyaluronic Acid onto Cartilage matrix.

Minerals

Silicon enhances the function of Boron.
Silicon enhances the function of Calcium.
Silicon enhances the function of Magnesium.
Silicon enhances the function of Manganese.
Silicon enhances the function of Potassium.

Proteins

Silicon stimulates Chondroblasts to deposit Keratin Sulfate onto Cartilage matrix.

Dietary Sources of Silicon

Most dietary sources of Silicon (including Equisetum) are in the form of Silica (which has only limited bioavailability).

(mg of Silicon per 100 grams)

Beverages: Beer
Cereal Grains: Oats Barley
Rice - Brown
Fruit: Apricot Fig
Dates Strawberry
Herbs: Alfalfa Bilberry
Burdock Chickweed
Cornsilk Dandelion
Equisetum (Horsetail) 7,000 Eyebright
Feverfew Ginsengs
Hawthorn Horseradish
Pau D’Arco Peppermint
Ribwort Sarsaparilla
Stevia Tea (black leaf) 24
Legumes: Soya Beans
Sea Vegetables: Kelp
Seeds: Sesame Seeds Sunflower Seeds
Tahini
Vegetables: Artichoke Asparagus
Avocado Cabbage
Cauliflower Celery
Cucumber Fennel
Garlic Leek
Lettuce Onion
Parsnip Spinach
Tomato
Forms of Silicon

Silicas:
(Silica is also known as Silicon Dioxide or Silicea) Silica is a polymeric silicon-hydroxide-oxide-water complex that can contain up to several trillion silicon atoms. Silicas are not bioavailable to the human body until (and if) they are broken down into individual units of Silicon during the digestive process.
Magnesium Trisilicate: Found in many commercial Antacids
Silicic Acid: The acid form of Silica. Silica comprises 77% of Silicic Acid.
Sodium Metasilicate:
Sodium Silicate: Silicic Acid bound to Sodium
Non-Silicas
Orthosilicic Acid: A soluble form of Silicon, has been shown to be highly bioavailable but has not been commercially available until recently due to its instability in an aqueous medium at a physiological pH. A stabilized form is now available as 3 percent elemental Silicon (as Orthosilicic acid) in a solution of 70 percent choline, HCl and water. It is claimed that Orthosilicic Acid is the only form of Silicon that the human body can effectively assimilate and use and it is this form that naturally occurs in the bloodstream.
Silicic Acid: Acid form of Silicon often supplied in supplements in colloidal form. Colloidal Silicic Acid may be applied topically.
Bioavailability

Silica (Silicate) forms of Silicon are believed to be poorly bioavailable to the human body. When combined with Waer, Silicates convert to Orthosilicic Acid, which IS bioavailable to the human body.
The oral bioavailability of dietary Silicon varies from 0% to 50%.

Dosage Recommendations

Circumstance Daily Dosage Notes
Therapeutic Dosage: 30 - 50 mg
Osteoporosis: 50 mg
Toxic Dosage: 60 mg This has NOT been established as a toxic dosage but some experts recommend consumption of no more than 60 mg per day until further studies on Silicon have been conducted to establish its safety profile.
The average human body contains a total of 16,000 mg of Silicon and the average western diet contains 40 mg of Silicon per day.

Copyright 1998-1999 In-Tele-Health

perhaps you would like more information on both Silica and Chlorella I have heaps more if you would like it??

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Chlorella

Algae and other aquatic plants possess the capacity to take up toxic trace metals from their environment, resulting in an internal concentration greater than those of the surrounding waters.87 This property has been exploited as a means for treating industrial effluent containing metals before they are discharged, and to recover the bioavailable fraction of the metal.88


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- http://www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm

Do you argue for the sake of arguing?

No but you do!!! ... You constantly try to argue with information FOR instead of against, like this snippet from Dr Mercola, simply because you do not understand the subject and copy and paste things you THINK are in YOUR favour but in actual fact are just snippets that 'are not complete' and give an incorrect understanding of the topic

You should have included the rest of the article (which I will highlight just as it is on his site) ....

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Chlorella has been shown to develop resistance to cadmium contaminated waters by synthesizing metal-binding proteins.89 A book written for the mining industry, Biosorption of Heavy Metals,90 details how miners use these organisms to increase the yield of precious metals in old mines. The mucopolysaccharides in chlorella's cell wall absorb rather large amounts of toxic metals similar to an ion exchange resin.

Chlorella also enhances mobilization of mercury compartmentalized in non-neurologic structures such as the gut wall,91 muscles, ligaments, connective tissue, and bone.

High doses of chlorella have been found to be very effective in Germany for mercury elimination.92

Chlorella is an important part of the systemic mercury elimination program, as approximately 90% of the mercury is eliminated through the stool. Using large doses of chlorella facilitates fecal mercury excretion. After the intestinal mercury burden is lowered, mercury will more readily migrate into the intestine from other body tissues from where chlorella will effectively remove it.

Chlorella is not tolerated by about one-third of people due to gastrointestinal distress. Chitosan can be effectively used as an alternative in these individuals. Chitosan makes up most of the hull of insects shellfish and also bind metals like mercury from the lumen of the intestines.


NOWHERE on Dr Mercolas site will you find him saying chlorella is bad for you UNLESS you have an 'intolerance' to it, and in this he mentions repacing it with chitosan, a crustacean powder ... which is more prone to allergies (people who are allergic to shellfish etc) than Chlorella ever is.

LEARN about the subject you choose to contest me with, I am not joking when I say I have studied these things for some 30 odd years ... I have forgotten more than you have learned, and I'm tired of you arguing a point simply for you to try and prove you know more than I do. I'm here to LEARN just as much as to teach, if you don't like it, then say so, and I will leave post haste. I thought when I first came here that you were a person of honesty and integrity but I'm learning quickly that you are merely about spreading YOUR truths disguised as knowledge and to promote your site like so many others do.

If I impart information I do so in context, I say it is MY view or MY opinion, or at very least make it obvious that is what it is, the rest is what I have studied and learned through medical books and practice.

I would delight in you being able to teach me more, I love to learn new things, but you don't, and go about trying to make a fool of me instead ... and then you get angry because you can't 'best me'. Trying to do that is a childish trait that you need to address if you ever want to truly learn anything.

Learn how to 'communicate' instead of confront, and stop contradicting with incomplete information or snippets that prove my point instead of yours.
Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:39 pm
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Mystica,

I just wanted to say congratulations on beat off cancer!!!! My mother battled it for six years, and after 4, she decided to cut the ratiation and Theropy treatments and hit the natural road. Next to our gallon of milk, there was a half gallon of Chlorophyll. It was something I wasnt used to and didnt understand then. In hindsight, however, those last couple years of her life were her best and strongest.

Good for You!!!! Very Happy

cheers
Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:52 pm
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Mystica



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imamonstertruck wrote:
Mystica,

I just wanted to say congratulations on beat off cancer!!!! My mother battled it for six years, and after 4, she decided to cut the ratiation and Theropy treatments and hit the natural road. Next to our gallon of milk, there was a half gallon of Chlorophyll. It was something I wasnt used to and didnt understand then. In hindsight, however, those last couple years of her life were her best and strongest.

Good for You!!!! Very Happy

cheers

Thnak you 'truck, it's nice to get some positive feedback on information for a change.

I am sorry your mum didn't beat her cancer, but going off the radiation and chemo' would have made a big difference to her comfort and quality of life.

I was lucky that I had a great deal of information before I was diagnosed in 2003. I lost my mum to cancer in 1974 and that was when I began studying cancer in depth. So when I was diagnosed I refused all the conventional treatments the medical mafia wanted to 'try', eg HRT to lower the estrogen levels, radiation therapy, surgery with the accompanying 'stripping of lymph system' et al. I refused unless they followed my guidelines and they dismissed me with a great deal of antagonism, so I embarked on a treament I devised myself with the help and support of my very understanding GP. I got the all clear early in 2006.

There is a cure for every illness and disease, found in nature. Nature really does know best when it comes to 'food'.

But of course the exception is with genetic disorders, and with manmade diseases (which can be treated with natural remedies but is made more difficult to diagnose as there may be several factors involved).

Such as in this topic. Silicon additives (and silicon implants) can be dangerous if released into the body in large quantities and not treated properly.
Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:29 pm
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