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funzone36



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Post Gold set to become even scarcer (peak gold 2008) Reply with quote
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Bobby Godsell, chief executive of AngloGold Ashanti, predicted that worldwide gold production would stagnate, then fall in the coming years as large deposits of the precious metal become scarce.

He said this would support the rally in the gold price, which last week hit a 25-year high of $588 per ounce.


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RBC Capital Markets in London estimated that total gold production would rise slightly in 2006 and 2007, be flat in 2008 and start to fall in 2009. “There hasn’t been a big gold discovery for years,” said an analyst.

Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:57 pm
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edisme



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Post Gold Vanishing into Private Hoards Reply with quote
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/fekete/2007/0530.html
Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:24 pm
madthumbs



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Do NOT buy in to the gold scam!

I think it's covered in this video:

None Dare Call it Genocide

Basically they'll sell their gold by the truckload then compel you to sell it back to them at a lower rate.
Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:25 pm
daniliver



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Scary news in www.kitco.com about the falling of dollar and pushing you to buy gold . Wasn't this website controlled by j . If they want us to buy now , why now , is it now the last time we have to react and save our little savings in gold ? Few months ago kitco didn't insit too much about buying gold ,but now , and having in mind that the summer comes they are moving their flags and urging everybody to buy gold . MMmmmmm

I'm from Spain and I still have more doubts . Can the fall of dolar increase the value of my euro savings or the euro will fall also following the dollar or will be my country wich will fall or all Europe.
I know were to buy gold and probably I will buy a bar . But in the scenario of a crash , a bar is nothing I should sell immediately my house and change all the money for gold bars ... bufff it's a big step to make . Although I believe in the conspiracy and it's clear to see a crash for the advancement of the nwo and controll us with the mark of the beast I still haven't the nuts to sell everything and buy gold .

Are you going to take a step forward ??
Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:59 pm
edisme



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Post The Informer On Gold Reply with quote
That conclusion was very funny.

http://www.atgpress.com/inform/ba008.htm

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The best way to break the strangle hold of banks is to not deal with banks, but people are so used to banks that they will not forsake the convenience to go and buy US Postal money Orders or pay in coin minted by the United States, like Susan B Anthony. They don't care if they get raped 10 times over and that's what the banker plays on, ease of getting raped, and it feeeels soooo good. But if a robber came into the house and stole even less, they would kill him. A banker is different for people nuzzle up to his zipper to get robbed with convenience. So now when you hear someone say "hey look, gold went up today" you can laugh at him. Notice how many experts in "money" say the same thing. They are not very expert are they?

Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:02 pm
edisme



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Post Half of gold in central banks gone? Reply with quote
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59935

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Watchdog: 'We want to expose and stop the manipulation'
Posted: January 29, 2008
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com

U.S. central banks may have less than half the gold they claim to possess in their vaults, charges a watchdog group in an ad scheduled for publication in the Wall Street Journal this week.

As WND reported, the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee, or GATA, claims the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury are surreptitiously manipulating the country's gold reserves by participating in undisclosed leases, according to an advance copy WND obtained of the ad running in Thursday's edition of the Journal.

GATA believes much of the borrowed gold out on lease will never be returned to the central banks.

"With the demand for gold so strong worldwide, it has become impossible to return much of the leased gold without driving the price to the moon," said GATA's chairman, William J. Murphy III.

"Most observers calculate central bank reserves are supposed to have about 30,000 tons of gold worldwide in their vaults, but we believe the amount of gold actually there may be more like 15,000 tons," Murphy said. "The rest of the gold is gone."

The U.S. Treasury denies the claim, insisting the stock is accounted for regularly.

"We want to expose and stop the manipulation of the gold market by the United States Treasury and Federal Reserve right now," Murphy said.

"The purpose of this ad is to wake people up in the investment world as to what is going on behind the scenes in the U.S. gold and financial markets," Murphy told WND.

He explained GATA has decided to pay the Wall Street Journal $264,000 for a one-time placement of the full page ad in the national edition because the financial press has not covered the story.

"We have had two major international conferences since 2001; the mainstream financial press has blackballed our message," Murphy explained.

"Anybody Seen Our Gold?" the ad is titled, charging U.S. gold reserves held at depositories such as Fort Knox or West Point may have been seriously depleted as they are shipped overseas to settle complex transactions utilized by the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury to suppress prices.

GATA further charges the U.S. government strategy to manipulate the price of gold has begun to fail.

"The objective of this manipulation is to conceal the mismanagement of the U.S. dollar so that it might retain its function as the world’s reserve currency," the ad copy reads.

"Gold's recent rise toward $900 per ounce shows that the price suppression scheme is faltering," GATA says. "When it is widely understood how central banks have been suppressing gold, its price may rise to $3,000 or $5,000 an ounce or more."

As evidence of gold price manipulation by the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve, GATA cites Treasury's weekly report of the government's international reserve position that since May has listed gold loans and swaps as a line item in accounting for U.S. gold reserves.

The ad also cites a July 24, 1998, statement by then-Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, who told Congress "central banks stand ready to lease gold in increasing quantities should the price rise."

The most recent U.S. Treasury statement of the U.S. international reserve position, released Jan. 24, lists the total U.S. foreign currency reserves as $71.515 billion, of which $11.041 billion is listed as gold (including gold deposits and, if appropriate, gold swapped).

The Bank of International Settlements reports the gold derivatives market hit a peak of $640 billion dollars in December 2006.

Murphy emphasizes that tracing the derivatives back to central bank gold transactions and determining precisely the degree to which the Federal Reserve and the U.S. Treasury are involved is not possible now, given the lack of public accountability and transparency built into the gold derivatives financial system worldwide.

Murphy said his grouip filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve "to find out what this line item is all about."

"What is the true status of the U.S. gold that is supposed to belong to the American people?" he asked. "Has U.S. gold been put into play without the Treasury or Fed letting the American people know?"

A statement on Treasury's website claims the agency's Exchange Stabilization Fund has not been used to manipulate gold prices. But no statement could be found on the Treasury website that categorically denies the agency engages in gold swaps, leases or futures contracts for reasons other than to manipulate the price of gold.

The London Bullion Market Association lists on its website more than 80 members working as "bullion bank market makers" engaged in the worldwide gold commodities market place as principals originating and participating in various gold derivative products, including gold leases and swaps.

The U.S. members of the London Bullion Market Association listed include Bear Stearns Forex Inc., Goldman Sachs International, JP Morgan Chase Bank, Bank of America, Citibank, Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley.

A legal memorandum filed Feb. 28, 2003, on behalf of Barrick Gold Corporation, a major gold company affiliated with bullion bank J. P. Morgan, admitted Barrick engages with central banks in gold leases and other gold derivative transactions, without specifically admitting whether any such transactions were conducted on behalf of the Federal Reserve and Treasury.

In September 1999, European central banks meeting in Washington signed what has become known as the "Washington Accord," an agreement in which the banks agreed to limit the amount of their gold sales to 400 tons per year and not to expand their leasing operations during the five years of the agreement.

Under a gold lease, a central bank loans gold to a bullion bank at a nominal rate of interest, typically 1 percent.

The bullion banks then takes the gold lease to a commodities market such as the London Bullion Market, where the physical gold is sold, thereby adding to the supply of gold available on the market.

Problems develop when the price of gold rises dramatically, such as it has in recently months, with gold currently running over $900 an ounce.

Now, when the leased gold needs to be returned to the central banks at the end of the lease period, the bullion banks may have to go into the market and buy gold at a much higher price than the price when the gold initially was leased.

To hedge against the risk, bullion banks typically buy futures contracts or gold call options to secure gold delivery at a specified future date for a specified future price.

In the world of gold derivatives, a wide variety of contracts exist, including transactions in which central banks swap gold reserves, so they can carry out leasing or other gold derivative transactions using the gold of the other central bank rather than their own.

Gold swaps make central bank gold transactions even less transparent and more difficult to track.

Under current International Monetary Fund rules, central banks do not have to disclose on their financial statements how much of the gold in their stated reserves is encumbered by derivative contracts, including gold leases and swaps.

Nor are bullion banks required to disclose to the public the contracts under which they lease gold from central banks.

Gold yesterday hit a new all-time high, with futures contracts for February delivery surging to $929.80 an ounce on the New York Mercantile Exchange in mid-day trading.

If you would like to sound off on this issue, participate in today's WND Poll.

Editor's note: The November issue of WND's monthly Whistleblower magazine, titled 'HOW GLOBALISM IS DESTROYING THE U.S. ECONOMY' – focuses exclusively on the future of the U.S. economy, and answers key questions like: 'If inflation is so low, how come food and energy cost so much?' 'What is the 'housing bubble,' and why did it burst?' 'What's really going on with the stock market?' 'Is America heading into a recession?' 'Will the dollar collapse in 2008?' and 'What will happen to the price of gold?'

Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:48 pm
Takeshi Kovacs



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G7 approves IMF gold sales - Italy econ minister

Sat Feb 9, 2008 6:41pm IST

By Gavin Jones

TOKYO (Reuters) - The Group of Seven rich nations on Saturday approved the sale of gold by the International Monetary Fund from April as part of a broad reform of its budget, Italian Economy Minister Tommaso Padoa-Schioppa said.

"There was an acceptance among the G7 that resources should be raised by selling gold," Padoa-Schioppa, who is also the head of the IMF's steering committee (IMFC), told reporters after a meeting of G7 finance ministers in Tokyo.

He said the agreement would be finalised in April and would complement spending cuts being drawn up by the IMF under its new managing director, Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

"The current gold price means a flow of income can be ensured," Padoa-Schioppa said.

Morgan Stanley analyst Stephen Jen said the Fund held 103.4 million ounces of gold worth some $92 billion at current market prices. That was up from $23 billion just five years ago.

"The IMF is rich, if it wants to be," he wrote in a recent note to clients, issued before the G7's approval of the gold sales. "This is arguably a good time to consider selling some of these gold holdings and investing the proceeds in financial securities with positive yields."

A surge in oil prices has boosted gold's appeal as a hedge against inflation.

The precious metal gained more than 30 percent in 2007 as safe-haven buying increased due to the credit market turmoil and worries about the health of the dollar as it fell to record lows against the euro.

Gold continued its upward march this year. Cash gold hit a record high of $936.50 an ounce on Feb. 1, up about 12 percent since the start of the year, and was quoted at $918.00/918.70 an ounce in late New York on Friday.

Padoa-Schioppa noted that in the case of the United States, approval for gold sales would be required by Congress, meaning "the administration must present a proposal and support it".

Padoa-Schioppa said he would step down as president of the IMFC because of the recent fall of the Italian government which meant he would soon lose his job as economy minister.

Asked if he would continue as IMFC head, he said: "I don't believe so, it has to be a minister in office, and soon I will no longer be a minister in office."


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