Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 707 Location: Toronto,Canada (biggest Canadian city)
The real truth about fluoride (please read)
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Ionic fluoride is not the same as the organic fluorine that contributes to bone and tooth health. Organic fluorine is present in a great many foods and, as it is protein bound, is poorly absorbed. Ionic fluoride is, in contrast, rapidly and completely absorbed by the stomach.
Even the enthusiasts recognise that fluoride is toxic at VERY small doses.
The history of fluoride
The concept of fluoridation (adding fluoride to foods and water) has been with us for decades. Some clever scientists noticed that organic fluorine is required with calcium for healthy teeth and bones.
Extrapolating this, the scientists decided that more fluorine may mean more healthy teeth, (although they couldn't prove this) and suggested that water supplies be "enhanced" with ionic fluoride, which is not the same compound and has different health effects!
Coincidentally, the scientists worked for large paper and aluminium manufacturers, whose industrial processes produce large amounts of....you guessed it, fluoride!
fluoride is toxic waste. The ONLY reason it is added to water is to save the manufacturers from having to get rid of it.
fluoride and dental health
Organic fluorine, along with calcium and a little bit of help from molybdenum, forms calcium fluorapatite, which is recognised as the mineral element of teeth and bones.
Ionic fluoride does not contribute to this process and instead causes the over stimulation of the parathyroid glands, resulting in abnormal bone growth, calcification of tendons and ligaments and interrupts the process which generates energy in cells.
Symptoms of fluoride poisoning (flurosis)
Mottled teeth
Osteoporosis
Bone spurs (abnormal bony projections)
Calcification of tendons and ligaments
Chronic fatigue (may be implicated in chronic fatigue syndrome)
Flurosis may be fatal
But hasn't fluoride been shown to reduce tooth decay?
No.
Numerous studies, mostly sponsored by the (enormously successful) pro-fluoride lobby have been undertaken in an effort to support the "fluoride hypothesis". Some of these studies have involved the fluoridation of water supplies in whole cities to study the "benefits" over non-fluoridated cities.
The results?
Non-fluoridated cities had significantly fewer dental caries!
Needless to say, the fluoridation lobby then dismissed these results as "irrelevant" in the face of the "obvious" benefits of fluoridation.
We have yet to hear of ANY health benefit from fluoridation. The only benefit that is obvious is that instead of having to pay to get rid of their toxic waste, paper and aluminium manufacturers can sell it for use in water supplies and toothpastes.
This is criminal!
Normal amounts of fluoride in the diet
None at all!
Sources of dietary fluoride
Ionic fluoride is not present in foods naturally
Conclusion
fluoride is not a normal constituent of the diet. It should not therefore be added artificially to the diet. If you want to boost your bone and joint health, take come calcium and maybe boost your seafood intake. Do NOT, under any circumstances, drink fluoridated water or use "fluoride" toothpaste.
So in conclusion, there are two kinds of fluorine. One is good for teeth and the other is waste that actually harms teeth. MT and everybody else, this is the best information. Other disinfo sites fail to recognize that organic fluorine is good for you.
Thu Apr 13, 2006 5:57 pm
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the_names_james
Joined: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 103 Location: England, UK
So various Governments around the world have been knowingly poisoning their population?
Sun Apr 16, 2006 12:26 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Fluoride makes people easier to control ,come on not because it was a method to get rid of industry waste . This what makes me angry , some disinfo or usefull idiots tend to think this is about making money or save money . No , this is personal is simple we against them, the god's chosen people. Full stop. It is a hidden and macavellian war.
So various Governments around the world have been knowingly poisoning their population?
Goverments support pharmaceutical companies where the poisons are made. Lithium has the same apathy inducing effect as flouride, this is why manic or ultra-violent persons are treated with it. More poisons they pump out: fake female hormones i.e. birth control pills. SSRI's, vaccinations, cancer drugs.
Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:55 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Some people will say that fluorine found in tea is safe and natural. This is not true, and the source of it comes from pesticides. Tea just happens to soak up fluoride and fluorine much better than other plants.
I don't think it's a coincidence that these things are marketed as "good for you".
there are plenty of publications -books, magazines, studies, internet - that show beyound doubt that you should not drink tap water, and not even bathe nor shower in it unless it is filtered.
Organic fluorine is present in a great many foods...
like what? All the information that i have been able to find is about how reactive and dangerous fluoride is. Also that fluorine is being tested for use as rocket propellant and how it is used in the production of nukes. In fact I have not been able to find anything about the positive effects of fluorine.
Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:38 am
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Citing new scientific evidence suggesting ineffectiveness and serious health risks, more than 600 professionals are urging Congress to stop water fluoridation until congressional hearings are conducted.
The signers include physicians, dentists, scientists, and environmentalists.
Their statement released yesterday cites a 500-page review of fluoride's toxicology by a panel appointed by the National Research Council of the National Academies.
The panel looked at a large body of literature in which fluoride is said to have a statistically significant association with a wide range of adverse effects. They include an increased risk of bone fractures, decreased thyroid function, lowered IQ, arthritic-like conditions, dental fluorosis and, possibly, osteosarcoma.
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The signers include a Nobel Prize winner, three members of the NRC panel, two officers in the union representing professionals at the Environmental Protection Agency headquarters and the president of the International Society of Doctors for the Environment.
"Fluoridation is against all principles of modern pharmacology. It's really obsolete," contends signer Dr. Arvid Carlsson, winner of the 2000 Nobel Prize for Medicine.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says it "continues to strongly support community water fluoridation as a safe and effective public health measure to prevent and control tooth decay and to improve overall health."
The signers, nevertheless, say CDC data indicates dental fluorosis, caused by fluoride over-exposure, now impacts one- third of American children.
An online petition to Congress in support of the professionals' statement will become available soon on the website of a group called the Fluoride Action Network, or FAN.
FAN director Paul Connett asserts government officials "who continue to promote fluoridation must testify under oath as to why they are ignoring the powerful evidence of harm in the NRC report."
The statement to Congress notes the new American Dental Association policy recommending infant formula not be prepared with fluoridated water and the CDC's concession that the predominant benefit of fluoride is topical not systemic.
The professionals also point to major research indicating little difference in decay rates between fluoridated and non-fluoridated communities.
Additionally, they cite a Harvard study indicating a possible link between fluoridation and bone cancer, noting the silicofluoride chemicals used for fluoridation are contaminated industrial waste and have never been FDA-approved for human ingestion.
The CDC insists, however, that in spite of the studies, "the weight of the scientific evidence, as assessed by independent committees of experts, comprehensive systematic reviews, and review of the findings of individual studies does not support an association between water fluoridated at levels optimal for oral health and the risk for cancer, including osteosarcoma."
The Environmental Working Group, a Washington, D.C.-watchdog, the professionals say, revealed a Harvard professor concealed the fluoridation/bone cancer connection for three years.
The president of the watchdog group, Ken Cook, says, "It is time for the U.S. to recognize that fluoridation has serious risks that far outweigh any minor benefits, and unlike many other environmental issues, it's as easy to end as turning off a valve at the water plant."
Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:17 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
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Then they took the iodine out of the bread and some medical idiot substituted bromide, a bio-poison in its place.[vi] There are actually four halogens: iodine, bromine, fluorine and chlorine. All these halogens use the same receptors in the body. Therefore if a person's diet is deficient in iodine the iodine receptors in the thyroid and stomach, for example, may fill up with bromine which is common in grains, bleached flour, sodas, nuts and oils as well as several plant foods. Iodine is depleted by bromine, which is used as a spray on fruits and vegetables, in baked goods, as a fumigant, and in Prozac, Paxil and many other pharmaceutical drugs. Chlorine, fluorine, and fluoride are chemically related to iodine, and compete with it, blocking iodine receptors in the thyroid gland.
Iodine intake immediately increases the excretion of bromide, fluoride,
and some heavy metals including mercury and lead. Bromide and
fluoride are not removed by any other chelator or detoxifying technique.
I understand the part about the stuff being toxic, no question there. However, my big question is: If it does actually make people docile and our kids are getting it at school and in their drinking water then why the big increase in violence among teens? You would think fewer kids would be joining the military and so forth.... Doesn't make sense. It makes more sense that it makes people violent and makes them fight each other...
