Former Beatle Paul McCartney is urging the world to go vegetarian in a bid to fight global warming.
In an interview with People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (Peta), McCartney said the global meat industry was a major contributor to global warming.
"The biggest change anyone could make in their own lifestyle would be to become vegetarian," McCartney, a longtime vegetarian and advocate of vegetarianism, said.
"I would urge everyone to think about taking this simple step to help our precious environment and save it for the children of the future."
McCartney says the amount of land and water used to maintain the meat industry makes it a major contributor to climate change and complains that most environmental groups do not list vegetarianism as one of their top priorities.
"It's very surprising that most major environmental organizations are leaving the option of going vegetarian off their lists of top ways to curtail global warming," he said.
A 2006 United Nations report found that cattle-rearing generated more greenhouse gases than transportation.
Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:07 pm
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madthumbs
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The most depressed time in my life was when I was on an almost vegan diet. Depression can lead people to religion. Religion can lead people to inhumanity. I care a lot about how animals are treated to such an extent that I refuse to own one (to me it's almost like slavery).
The deer population in the US is said to be 10x what it was when being colonized due to modern farming. There are protected animals that are becoming a menace. We can see countless videos of animals being slowly and painfully killed by other other animals for food. There are people starving in the US, not just India because of laws, ordinances, ignorance, and lack of ability / knowledge.
Even vegans swallow spiders in their sleep, and many insects are considered edible. I think if we could just expand the typical diet beyond chicken, beef, fish, turkey, and pig; we'd make great leaps and bounds. Vegans could help their cause so much more if they raised animals for meat in better conditions for others, but instead they tend to fill a cultural role.
Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:36 pm
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PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) activists, from left, Filipino Katrina Lugartos, American national Istara Bon Gundry, and Canadian Ashley Fruno, clad partly with fresh lettuce, hold placards as they protest at a square in Manila, Philippines, Friday April 18, 2008. The activists, protesting ahead of the global celebration of Earth Day next week, alleged in their statement that "meat production has a devastating impact on the environment" and urged people to go vegetarian instead. (Xinhua/Reuters Photo)
Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:08 pm
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Peta Usefull idiots
Here is an example on how this group is being used. They complain and ask for more laws to restrict our freedoms even more.
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PETA's letter was prompted after Florida's decision to sign on to a lawsuit against the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency after the agency denied California's request for a waiver that the state needed to implement a strict new tailpipe-emissions law.
I am a veggy of sorts, I won't eat anything that I can't or haven't killed myself, society and my life right now puts no pressure on me to eat meat, if all that changed I would be eating people and I would love it.
The only difference when I ate meat was it makes me vicous and I got into a lot of trouble as a young teenager, as soon as I stopped eating meat aged 16 I was so much more passive and started to question everything, when before I would just go along with the pack even if I was the leader.
Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:14 am
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madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Climate has a huge effect on the proportion of meat we should have in our diet.
Climate has a huge effect on the proportion of meat we should have in our diet.
I would actually say it has more to do with the Meat Industry pushing meat as a vital part of our diet but its not that vital, its just something we can eat, the difference being modern meat is laced with the lowest quality most dangerous class of Steroids and GM Hyper Growth Hormones, nobody cares to ask or wonder how the Cows health actually is and what knock on affect that has on humans.
In certain parts of the world and in some cultures you can not eat an animal that is ill or ready to die because they believe its low life force or infection will pass into your body or affect your life force, its possible.
I know some cultures believed that when you killed an enemy, you should eat there heart out of respect and to gain their life force, there was a move called Ravenous which is factional but put the point across in dramatic movie style.
I do not believe eating meat is wrong, nature allows it and its part of our eco system, in the same breath I have to say I have no problem with cannibalism, I personally don't have a fetish to be eaten but its better than being murdered for any one of the millions of reason people kill one another.
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During the 15th, 16th and 17th centuries, when Europeans invaded the New World, they saw cannibalism as the quintessential expression of savagery and evil, and used this as a justification for employing violent means to subjugate native people. This theme dates back to Columbus' accounts of a supposedly ferocious group of man-eaters who lived in the Caribbean islands and parts of South America called the Caniba, which gave us the word cannibal. In the 16th century, Pope Innocent IV declared cannibalism a sin deserving to be punished by Christians through force of arms and Queen Isabella of Spain decreed that Spanish colonists could only legally enslave natives who were cannibals, giving the colonists an economic interest in making such allegations.
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At the same time that Europeans were condemning various native peoples as cannibals, however, they were practicing a form of cannibalism themselves. Use of medicines made from blood and other human body parts was widespread in Europe through the 17th century. Europeans of the period consumed fresh blood as a cure for epilepsy and substances from various body parts to treat a variety of diseases, including arthritis, reproductive difficulties, sciatica, warts and skin blemishes. A primary source for this material was the bodies of executed criminals. Pieces of mummified human flesh imported from Egypt were considered a general panacea and were widely prescribed by the physicians of the day, Conklin reports.
This is what Ted Turner had to say about cannibalism.
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Interviewed Tuesday for Charlie Rose's PBS show, CNN founder Ted Turner argued that inaction on global warming “will be catastrophic” and those who don't die “will be cannibals.” He also applied moral equivalence in describing Iraqi insurgents as “patriots” who simply “don't like us because we've invaded their country” and so “if the Iraqis were in Washington, D.C., we'd be doing the same thing.” On not taking drastic action to correct global warming:
Not doing it will be catastrophic. We'll be eight degrees hotter in ten, not ten but 30 or 40 years and basically none of the crops will grow. Most of the people will have died and the rest of us will be cannibals.
Turner ridiculed the need for a big U.S. military, insisting “China just wants to sell us shoes. They're not building landing craft to attack the United States,” and “even with our $500 billion military budget, we can't win in Iraq. We're being beaten by insurgents who don't even have any tanks.” After Rose pointed out the Iraqi insurgents “have a lot of roadside bombs that kill a lot of Americans” and wondered “where do you think they come from?”, Turner answered:
Outside the Western world, Chinese performance artist Zhu Yu made a name for himself by eating a dead baby on film. It's not clear what the artistic merit of this act was supposed to be, but we're sure there must be some. The photo shown here prompted a massive furor about the Internet and art, as well as inspiring a purported "investigation" by the FBI and Scotland Yard, which included baseless threats by the latter agency to shut down Rotten Dot Com. It's not at all clear whether Zhu Yu actually ate a baby for the sake of art, or just simulated eating a baby for the sake of art, or actually ate a baby for the sake of his sick fetish thrills while claiming it was for the sake of art.
How does it make you feel watching this guy eat a aborted fetus?
If it makes you feel weird well I thinks that is perfectly normal, but imagine a world when hunger is constant and like a knife in your belly, you can only imagine what that is like if you have ever starved for real, not I missed my breakfast kind of starving, try not eating for three days and I promise you will no longer be the kind nice person you normally are.
I am under no illusions about 99% of human nature when true hunger bites, we are animals, religion would have us believe we are not but I know we are animals, nothing wrong with that, so lets not pretend we won't do what it takes to survive.
Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:55 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
That story is false, as are all the other ones about Chinese people eating babies from Hosipitals, this was done by an Artist, the Chinese Damien Hurst if you like.
You beat me with the the new bug thread, that is fooking horrible and I feel sick now
Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:32 pm
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PASSIVE
ShadowWorks wrote:
I am a veggy of sorts, I won't eat anything that I can't or haven't killed myself, society and my life right now puts no pressure on me to eat meat, if all that changed I would be eating people and I would love it.
The only difference when I ate meat was it makes me vicous and I got into a lot of trouble as a young teenager, as soon as I stopped eating meat aged 16 I was so much more passive and started to question everything, when before I would just go along with the pack even if I was the leader.
Your are right and it is has been a problem a few times in my life but not often, people who knew me from my School days are shocked by how chilled out I am now and recant stories of my madness which beggars belief, I get embarrassed when I realised I did such things, I once drop kicked a stupid girl down a flight of concrete stairs because she was new in school and didn't know I was the biggest prick in the school with a chip on his shoulder, she kept on calling me and my friends niggers over and over again, I even told the teacher she told us all to shut up, I even warned this girl to STFU, when the school bell rang I waited for her and in front of everybody including the head master I made this girl take off and fly some 15 feet in the air as she missed every single step and landed at the bottom
What the hell was I thinking? I once beat the shiet out of one guy because he splashed my Nikes! oh man that is not right.
I can see the difference in people today who are ultra aggressive, the smallest thing sets them off, even looking at a person can trigger road rage, there is something in the food that makes some people violent and some people passive, I would rather have a society of passive thinkers rather than aggressive non thinkers, there is a balance.
Lets put it like this, angry people never learn, to much passivity means you won't care which is not right either, each persons needs to reach there own balance, some need meat some don't, we have to get the balance on our own which works for us, we don't need a government telling us what to eat or what we can eat.
Its like body buidling, some diets work for some people and other diets work for other people, there are many roads to Mecca
Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:18 am
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i know some vegans that could kill you with their bare hands.
Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:17 pm
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dumby wrote:
i know some vegans that could kill you with their bare hands.
don't miss the point! You should have the right to choose.
