I know there is fluoride in tea leaves but tea is very relaxing and calming on the body and digestive system.
I know why absorb chemical that are bad for us every day where we want to or not, the biggest difference is how you feel about
Remember Napoleon was poisoned for years with arsenic and the bugger would not die, he just felt to good about himself, I used to chew on mercury batteries as a kid, so I could get the carbon zinc rod as we collected them for fun.
If it did anything is made my immune system stronger but a child's immune system is very powerful compared to an adults.
No matter what you eat just feel good about yourself and what you eat, your body and mind can over come a lot, not everything but its a weapon on our side.[/list]
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Poisoned Horses Excerpts
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Justus's horses are found to be suffering from chronic fluoride poisoning from drinking fluoridated water. Study published in peer reviewed scientific literature.
Justus's horses are found to be suffering from chronic fluoride poisoning from drinking fluoridated water. Study published in peer reviewed scientific literature.
You know fluoride skeptics claim the amount of fluoride in our drinking water is slow low it can not harm us.
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The Truth behind the lies of the benefits of FLUORIDATION in our foods and drinking water.
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As detailed in this ABC News Story, over 600 (now over 1,200) professionals are urging Congress to stop water fluoridation until Congressional hearings are conducted. They cite new scientific evidence that fluoridation, long promoted to fight tooth decay, is ineffective and has serious health risks. For more info, see: http://www.FluorideAlert.Org
THE ADDITION OF FLUORIDE, A POTENTIALLY TOXIC SUBSTANCE, TO THE PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY IS COMPULSORY MASS MEDICATION. IT VIOLATES ALL ETHICAL PRINCIPLES.
Many of the speakers at the Total Health 81 conference referred to the problem we have with our fluoridated drinking water:
DR. JAN DE VRIES, Dr. H.Med., Ph.D., D.Ac., D.O., N.D. "I was very shocked that you poor people in Toronto have to drink this water. We have had a tremendous fight in Holland, which we won. This fluoride water is a chemical soft-working tranquilizer. Hitler put fluoride in the water to keep his prisoners quiet, and the same thing happens in other parts of the world. If I put a homeopathic remedy in this water, the remedy is destroyed. If you can work at getting this out of your water in any way at all, I would be very happy."
DR. WILLIAM ELLIS, D.O."The environmental protective agency in the United States has shown that the water in the 90 largest cities in the United States' all cause cancer. It's been proven in U.S. federal court that fluoridation of the inorganic form, which is the end product of aluminum manufacturing, is a cancer causative agent."
DR. WILLIAM MORRIS, D.C., N.D. "Fluoride hardens the arteries and it does a lot more damage. It's toxic, but it happens to be a waste product of a very influential type of industry. We don't need the fluoride in our water. It's an infringement on our freedom. That's what Consumer Health is all about. We must make our rights known, and we must fight for it. Air and water are our first two needs, and they are being politically polluted. I think you should get behind Consumer Health and let's put some pressure and lobby to get better air and water."
DISEASES CONNECTED WITH FLUORIDE Diseases connected with fluoride ingestion are cancer (of the mouth, esophagus, stomach, large intestine, rectum, kidney, bladder, urinary organs, breast, ovary), goiter, mongolism, kidney disease & osteoporosis. Additional problems are caused by fluoride in anaesthetics, gases and aerosol propellants.
Symptoms can appear as long as 20 to 30 years later, as fluoride is so very prone to accumulate, not only in the bones and teeth, but also in the soft tissues of the body. Physiologically, the fluoride ion is an avid bone seeker and a potent enzyme inhibitor according to Dr. Albert Burgstahler, University of Kansas. He states that fluoride depresses growth rate of human cells, causes dermatitis, affects thyroid and heart function, circulation and reproduction, is more potent than cyanide as an inhibitor of respiration, disturbs hormonal balance, and increases the incidence of mongolism by 15%. Upon its accumulation in tissues, fluoride may incorporate itself into naturally occurring compounds to form, for example, fluorouracil, capable of producing cancer or giving rise to deformed babies.
Symptoms associated with low-grade fluoride poisoning include excessive thirst, headaches, blurred vision, arthritis, gastrointestinal disturbances and excess urination. These will usually disappear if fluoridated water is replaced by distilled or spring water with a low fluoride level.
CANCER AND FLUORIDATION
In 1971, Dr. Dean Burke, Ph.D., began a study of the effects of fluoridation in drinking water in the United States. Dr. Burke was for 35 years, head of the cytochemistry section, and was co-founder of the National Cancer Institute, U.S.A. He has received many awards for cancer research and biochemistry, including the Domagh Prize, 1965, for cancer research. He has been involved in cancer research for 50 years.
Results of his studies show that a large increase in human cancer mortality in the U.S. is associated with public water fluoridation. "One-tenth of the 350,000 cancer deaths per year in the U.S. are linked with artificial public water fluoridation." (See graph on last page)
"We took the ten largest cities that had been fluoridated and compared them with the ten largest cities that had not been fluoridated. The fluoridation didn't start until 1952 to 1956, and has been continued ever since in the fluoridated group. Between 1940 and 1952 these two groups were identical, could not be distinguished on this curve. But from 1952 on, the curves have been continually widening to the point that there's now a difference of approximately 35,000 a year. There's no question about the data or our particular arrangement of it. The data is from government sources, which any high school student can look up and confirm. Nearly all of the fluoridation-linked cancer deaths are found to begin at the age of about 45 and then steadily increase with age. This situation is sharply different from the increased cancer deaths resulting from cigarette smoking, asbestos or hormones given to expectant mothers. Here a lag of 15 to 30 years is common. Increased death rates due to fluoridated water commence within a few years after initiation of fluoridation with marked continued increase thereafter."
HISTORY
In October, 1944, the Journal of the American Medical Association published an editorial: "We do know that the use of drinking water containing as little as 1.2 to 3 ppm (parts per million) of fluorine will cause such developmental disturbances in bones as osteosclerosis, spondylosis and osteopetrosis, as well as goiter, and we cannot afford the risk of producing such serious systemic disturbances in applying what is at present a doubtful procedure intended to prevent development of dental disfigurements."
Nevertheless, in 1945, two experiments were started, one in Grand Rapids, Michigan, one in Newburgh, New York, where 40,000 people were subjected to sodium fluoride, one of the most toxic substances known to man (even in minute quantities) without ever having done an animal experiment to prove its safety. Simultaneously, fluoride was introduced into Canada in the city of Brantford, Ontario in 1945. Subsequent to this, artificial fluoridation of public water supplies was initiated on a large scale in the U.S. by the Public Health Service. It spread to some other countries, including Canada, but was banned, or not tolerated in even more. At present 49% of the population of the United States drinks artificially fluoridated water, 37% in Canada, about 7% in England and 2% in Europe. Most European countries have rejected it altogether. Many cities in Canada have opposed it. Strong opposition has developed in Quebec due to a recent adverse report on fluoridation presented to the Minister of the Environment (Environmental Fluoride, 1977 by Rose and Marier) and has been given much publicity.
WHAT IS FLUORIDE?
The fluoride which is added to our water supply is common rat poison, a byproduct of the aluminum, steel, ceramic, phosphate fertilizer, and other chemical industries. It is added to usually soft city water in the forms sodium fluoride, sodium silica fluoride or hydrofluoric acid. However, the fluorides occurring in nature, usually calcium fluoride, are found in hard water containing high levels of calcium and magnesium. Physiologically, the body copes better with the effects of fluoride if calcium and magnesium are present, and in cases of chronic and acute fluoride poisoning, the antidote is calcium. Sodium fluoride is highly soluble in water, whereas calcium fluoride is only slightly soluble.
In the Canadian Medical Association Journal in 1959 and 1960, Dr. William Costain reported every one of his patients given 3 mg. of sodium fluoride a day suffered ill effects ranging from bladder irritation to mental disturbances, while no one given 25 mg. of calcium fluoride suffered.
Because fluorine is so highly reactive, even when dissolved in water as the fluoride ion, it is still highly corrosive, and most water engineers are opposed to it as it has damaged many city water systems.
DOSAGE
Presently each liter of fluoridated drinking water contains I mg. (or 1 ppm.) of fluoride. The State of California Department of Public Health has stated: "Increases in fluoride concentration in excess of 1 ppm do not further decrease the occurrence of dental caries but do increase the risk of objectionable fluorosis (mottling of teeth)"
In addition to fluoride ingested in water, fluoride is also contained in many foods, such as black and green teas, some wines, meat and fish, gelatin, some processed foods, insecticides on fruits and vegetables, and fluoridated toothpaste (200 mg. in a 50 g. tube). Tea drinking alone can cause low level fluoride poisoning and possibly arthritis if done to excess.
It is usually accepted by medical authorities that children should have no more than 1 mg./day, and adults, 1.5 to 2 mg./day. However according to Dr. Albert Burgstahler, University of Kansas, the average adult daily intake today is 2 to 3 mg. Two liters of water alone used in drinking and cooking will contain the "safe" dose.
While chlorine is evaporated in the process of boiling water, this does not happen with fluoride, and the concentration can become dangerously high in long periods of cooking.
According to the Canadian Public Health Association, the acute lethal dose of fluoride for the average person is 2.2 grams.
THE EFFECT OF FLUORIDATED WATER ON TEETH
At first there will be an initial hardening of the enamel and resistance to decay, a delay in the occurrence of cavities and a delay in the eruption of teeth of about one year. The shape and size of the teeth may also be effected. "The difference in decay between fluoridated and unfluoridated teeth is about one tooth decay less in a mouth at the age of puberty." (Dr. Dean Burke).
According to Smith and Smith, two researchers at the University of Arizona, fluoridation causes the enamel of teeth to become brittle. Although the onset of decay is delayed, the tooth structure is weak. If excessive fluoride consumption is continued, mottling (dental fluorosis) will occur and in time the teeth may become stained. When decay does set in, the result is often disastrous. Tooth mottling is the earliest sign of what could become crippling skeletal fluorosis which is well documented in hot climate. Fluorosis actually means "chronic fluoride toxicity".
Adelle Davis stated: "In 1962 our Public Health Department reported that the children in Newburgh, New York...had slightly more decay after fluoridation than before. In Baltimore, Maryland, where water has been fluoridated since 1952, rampant decay has steadily increased. In Puerto Rico (where water has been fluoridated for 17 years) not only has tooth decay increased, but 64% of adolescent boys have permanently stained teeth from fluoride excess". Dr. Monte lone observed the younger Puerto Ricans seem to have rampant dental caries, mottling gingivitis and malocclusions. But he noticed the older and pre-fluoridated Puerto Ricans all seemed to have strong, healthy teeth. In Sweden at the time they decided to ban fluoridation, there was much talk of 'black teeth' and press reports in Billesholm, which has a high natural fluoride content, reported young people of 16 to 17 had all had their teeth capped because of yellow discoloured teeth.
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ON APRIL 14, 1981, DR. DEAN BURKE, STATED ON A CANADIAN RADIO STATION, CFTR: "We estimate that since fluoridation was introduced into the U.S., there have been almost as many excess deaths associated with fluoridation as the sum total of all American military deaths since the founding of U.S.A. 1776. Now that's an awful burden for pro-fluoridationists to bear if they can come to see that they have been responsible for this. The underlying clandestine force behind water fluoridation is a need by various industries to get rid of various toxic fluoride byproducts, about as tough to get rid of as radioactive wastes. The dentists are by and large pawns."
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FLUORIDATION AND YOUR HEALTH:
Dr. Pierre Morin, Ph.D. and Jack Graham, LL.B., co-authors of a report which resulted in suspension of the Quebec fluoride law, appeared in Toronto for media interviews and public lectures both in Toronto and Waterloo, May 29 and 30, 1981.
According to Dr. Morin, "This report, by a large multidisciplinary committee was prepared at the request of the Ministry of the Environment and the Ministry for Social Affairs. From the data studied, it quickly became evident to the members of the committee that the great toxicity of fluorides has been played down by promoters of water fluoridation. Toxic effects ranged from increase of cancer death rates to increase in the frequency of Down's syndrome and genetic mutation."
The Waterloo Safe Water Society lost their plebiscite on June 8th by approximately 300 votes. They are presently examining the costs and legal procedure for a recount of the vote. They have already approached the Regional government to determine the most effective way of making untreated city water available to the public. One or more centrally located unfluoridated water sources that would be accessible all year round would be one method, although it must be stressed that this would be a strictly temporary solution. From time to time the Waterloo Safe Water Society will announce its plans for opposing the fluoridation of the public water supply.
Anyone wishing to join a citizen's group to promote pure water and pure environment, please contact us at Consumer Health.
For more information on fighting fluoridation, go to www.fluoridealert.org
Fluoride Action Network (FAN) is founded and directed by Dr. Paul Connett, Ph.D. (checked May.04)
Water systems serving about 30 percent of Americans are not giving them fluoridated water, six decades after fluoridation was started as a public health measure to prevent tooth decay, officials said on Thursday.
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention hails the reduction in dental cavities due to adding fluoride to public water supplies as one of the top 10 public health achievements of the 20th century.
Most Americans get their water from municipal or regional community water systems. A new CDC report showed that as of 2006, 69 percent of people in the United States who get water from these systems received fluoridated water, up from 65 percent in 2000 and 62 percent in 1992.
That means that while 184 million Americans get fluoridated water from community water systems, 82 million do not.
"This is one of the dirty little secrets -- that the whole nation has not yet embraced fluoridation of water, which has enormous public health benefits," Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association, said in a telephone interview.
Fluoridation of public water supplies was introduced in 1945 in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
"It's still an under-utilized, very effective public health measure," Dr. William Bailey of the CDC's Division of Oral Health, who led the report, said in a telephone interview.
Some major cities still do not fluoridate their water supplies, including: San Diego; Portland, Oregon; Honolulu, Hawaii; and Wichita, Kansas. San Diego has committed to begin fluoridating its water by May 2010.
In California, the most populous of the 50 U.S. states, only 27 percent of people served by community systems were getting fluoridated water as of 2006, the CDC said. Only Hawaii (8 percent) and New Jersey (23 percent) were lower.
Fluoridation has remained controversial among some people. In fact, some opponents in the 1950s denounced it as a communist plot, which was lampooned in director Stanley Kubrick's 1964 Cold War satire "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb."
Current opponents argue the fluoride being added to water may cause a health problems such as weak bones and bone cancer, an assertion the CDC rejects.
Asked if there is any responsible evidence showing negative health effects due to fluoridated water, Bailey said, "No, not at the levels that we use in community water systems."
The CDC report showed other states with low percentages of people served by community systems getting fluoridated water included: Oregon (27 percent), Montana (31), Idaho (31), Wyoming (36), Louisiana (40) and New Hampshire (43). Fourteen states topped 90 percent. Washington D.C., was at 100 percent.
"Most people are complacent about the issue because they just naturally assume they live in a city that's fluoridated," Bailey said.
Fluoride is added to water -- either in powder or liquid form -- at water treatment plants, normally at levels of about one part per million, Bailey said.
Roughly 10 percent of Americans, mostly in rural areas, get water from wells, and this typically is not fluoridated. Also, many Americans drink bottled water that is not fluoridated.
The government's goal is for 75 percent of U.S. residents on community systems to be getting fluoridated water by 2010.
