I don't trust Penn and Teller because they did a long about 9/11 and how the conspiracy people are nuts, it was done by Arabs as they say.
I am Circumcised, not by choice, I don't mind it but I also know that its unnatural and I probably have less sensation, its an out dated practice and is not needed, I will not have this done to my children.
How stupid is that remark!!!!? You've never had it yet you believe what the other women say ... of course they will say it's more pleasurable with their current boyfriend/husband WHATEVER he has or has not.
A circumcised verse un-circumcised Penis has very little to do with orgasms, its all about how aroused you can get a woman with foreplay and then clitoral or vaginal stimulation, sometimes that not even needed!
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When a woman is properly stimulated and desires coitus, her vagina lubricates and provides a nice, wet, warm and slippery passage for the mans penis (no smegma needed), it is also 'ridged' (like an old fashioned wet soapy washboard) to stimulate the UNCOVERED 'helmet' of the male penis ... so no 'rasping' occurs to produce a scabby penis. If the circ leaves the glans uncovered when "flaccid" then it is the fault of the doctor who botched the job. If however it IS covered when flaccid and only fully exposed when 'engorged' and there are still problems of 'satisfaction', then the problem is with the lovemaking technique, and not making your partner wet with desire, (and by wanking too much).
That is actually a fair point, but I never said being circumcised is better than no circumcision or vice versa when it comes to sex and orgasms, that has more to do with the relationship.
I would like to know how a non circumcised felt for me but I will never know, I just know I was not born this way so why change it? do we know better than nature?
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Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:17 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8187 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
A new wrinkle cream that promises fabulous results. But the question everyone's asking is "what's in that cream?"
HealthWatchBarbara Blair says this new gel she's been using makes her face look a lot younger than the Retin-A and vitamin C creams she's been using.
"It's really tightened my skin. Firmed it. The little lines are much better. The texture is very appreciably different."
What Blair probably doesn't know is that a key ingredient in the cream is the foreskin of a circumcised baby.
The skin that would otherwise be tossed away. It was first made into a product that helped burn victims heal. Now it's in this antiwrinkle gel, called TNS Recovery Complex.
Betsy Rubenstone is the aesthetician in the plastic surgery department at the University of Pennsylvania and she swears by this stuff.
She knows why the foreskin is used.
"It's filled with everything we begin to lose as we age," Rubenstone says. "And that includes growth factors, amino acids, proteins, collage, elastin and holyuronic acid."
Thomas Jefferson University Hospital dermatologist Paul Bujanauskas says while TNS might have merit, he would not prescribe it for his patients because no scientific research proving its value has been published in medical journals.
The cost of one bottle of TNS is about $130. And that will last you about a month and a half. How does it smell? Well that's another downside. Just ask anybody who uses it.
"It's disgusting. It's got a sour smell to it that makes you want to gag," says Blair. "But you get used to it."
Sarah Cooper (35) of Augusta, Maine, was just another ordinary member of St. Luke’s Catholic Church, along with her husband and their three children. That all changed at a church fish fry on a certain Friday afternoon. Little did Mrs. Cooper know, but she was about to make headlines!
“I was just sitting there, nibbling on my hushpuppies and fries. When I took a bite of my fish sandwich, I started to taste a funny taste. Then I noticed something chewy and gross in my mouth. I got sickened by the grossness and quickly spit it out. That’s when I noticed what it looked like. It looked like a human foreskin!”
And she wasn’t wrong. A human foreskin was indeed found in her fish sandwich, smothered under ketchup, tartar sauce, and a nice helping of mayo. “Well,” said Father Perry Showalter (56), devoted priest of St. Luke’s parish for the last twenty-one years, “at least it didn’t cause the commotion until after everyone finished eating.”
Nicely, Mrs. Cooper agreed to be discreet about the matter until it was brought to the attention of the monsignor, but her husband was none too thrilled about the fact that for a brief moment, his wife was led into involuntary sin by having a part of another man’s penis in her mouth. “It’s a sad day for all religions when a faithful Catholic Christian woman can’t go to church without chewing on another dude’s cock! I’m furious and I want to find out how this happened!” said a red-faced and visibly distraught Matthew Cooper (39), an air force captain and husband of thirteen years to Sarah. “I’ve been a good Catholic all my life, and never have I seen anything like this!”
We understand Mr. Cooper’s rage, and we also want to find out what happened. So we decided to sit down with Father Perry, who was gracious enough to take the time out of his busy schedule to discuss the issue with us at length. Father Perry was not hesitant to put the blame where he said it was due—on his own church for the institution’s timelessly bad habit of going hog-wild for holy relics. In this case, the holy relic was believed to be the foreskin of Jesus Christ, the founder of Christianity.
“Well, it’s pretty simple,” Father Perry explained. “The only way the foreskin could have wound up in Mrs. Cooper’s sandwich is because of the recent truckload of foreskins, which was delivered to our church only a week earlier. One of them must have somehow gotten mixed in with the food during meal preparation, that’s all.” Father Perry, seeing our dissatisfaction with his words, elaborated further…
“You see, we are Catholics, and over the years, many Catholic churches have claimed to possess the one true foreskin of our Lord and Savior, along with tons of other “holy” relics that were found to be out-and-out frauds. Our church absolutely loves bombastic claims of the healing power of shrines and holy relics, and despite having some learned sages and scholars among us, our members are still stupider than Jupiter—stupid enough, in fact, to believe that visiting a holy site or touching a holy relic will bring healing and blessings from above.
Now you would think that with all the ‘seeing’ that the Holy See does, that they’d be able to detect what is true and what is false in the department of holy relics. But, as it turns out, God is more interested in having the Virgin Mary appear on tree stumps, making statues bleed, and having our Italian grannies make good garlic and tomato sauces to go with freshly-cooked pasta than he is in certifying accuracy in matters of the divine.
Over the centuries, the Catholic church has been as wrong as a still-working lottery winner on a great number of things, so it shouldn’t surprise us when pious, boy-touching bachelors with deadpan grins, tall hats, and fears of falling victim to chronic masturbation tell us lies. And not only is the Catholic Church filled with liars, but with shameless hypocrites too.
We once burned people alive for denying that un-baptized babies go to Hell, but now we believe precisely the same thing we once condemned others for believing. That’s just how we work. We’re a church of fallible human beings, and we’re no different than any other glorified, gregarious, gaggle of old geezers out there who claim a monopoly on faith and forgiveness.
So, getting back to the matter of the foreskin, the problem is that we can’t say for sure which of the possibly holy foreskins belonged to Jesus, even after many centuries of feuding and quarrelling with rival churches over the issue. To keep from throwing away the true foreskin of God Almighty (and to raise money for the church by having everyone of them put on display so that people will pay to come and see them), we decided to keep them around. Maine’s Roman Catholic Diocese thought it was a good idea to keep the foreskins here, and that is what led to the unfortunate accidental ingesting of the foreskin by Mrs. Cooper.”
When asked what he intends to do about the situation as a means of restitution for Mrs. Cooper, Father Perry replied, “We’ll do the same thing we’ve always done when we mess up—give a formal and somber apology, and then pretend the whole thing never happened. Every time we screw up (and we do often), we just say “I’m sorry,” and it has worked like a charm! No matter how many men we burned alive or stretched on the rack, no matter how many innocent women were tortured and falsely accused of being witches, all we had to do was offer up an apology and it was like spilled milk!
That’s what we did with Galileo, you’ll recall; the church wronged him, and not until many years after his death did the church get around to offering an arid, half-assed apology for it. Well, we intend to be much better to Mrs. Cooper than we were to Galileo by apologizing to her while she is still alive. And here it is for the record (and we’re only going to say it once): We’re sorry, Mrs. Cooper!”
When asked if she felt that the resolution of this matter was sufficient, Mrs. Cooper commented, “Oh yes. Of course, I accept the apology, although I’m having mixed feelings about this; the thought of having another man’s private part in my mouth was very disturbing. But then, I must admit that our church says that the foreskin I had in my mouth might have belonged to Jesus Christ, and if that is the case, I am deeply honored to have had a part of my Savior’s blessed hoo-haa in my unworthy mouth!”
(JH)
By Joe E. Holman at 7/06/2008
Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:51 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8187 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Elders from Kenya's Luo community in western Kenya have refused to endorse a plan to promote male circumcision to curb the spread of HIV/Aids.
The Luo Council of Elders says it cannot sanction circumcision, as it is against the community's culture.
A ministry of health campaign is trying to encourage more men to be circumcised by offering free circumcision services in Nyanza Province.
Researchers say circumcision reduces the risk of HIV infection among men.
Traditionally, the Luo community does not practise circumcision, unlike some other Kenyan communities.
About 2.5 million of 32 million Kenyans are currently living with HIV/Aids.
A high prevalence of HIV/Aids has been recorded among the Luo community and experts blame this on cultural practices, such as the practice of wife inheritance.
According to the custom, a widow is remarried by a brother-in-law or a suitor chosen by village elders.
Policy
The BBC's Muliro Telewa in Kisumu says the elders are not convinced that circumcision lowers the risk of infection.
The elders are afraid that some men will think that being circumcised is an alternative to using condoms, which will put them at a higher risk of infection, our correspondent says.
But individual members of the community who want to be circumcised are free to do so, the council says.
The Luo Council of Elders is an advisory body whose decisions highly influence the community's beliefs and practices.
The elders say they welcome any measures which will lower the prevalence of HIV/Aids, but are opposed to a campaign to encourage the acceptance of circumcision by the community.
They say the proposal should not be included in the government's policy on HIV/Aids.
The Luo community is mainly found in Kenya's Nyanza and Western Provinces and is Kenya's third largest community.
Studies have suggested that circumcision lowers the risk for men of contracting HIV and passing it on to women, and could be used as a weapon in the fight against the spread of HIV/Aids.
