Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 688 Location: Hell on earth
was bored so i watched it, thought it was an ok documentary, much less boring then money masters that's for sure, i already do most of the things they recommended people do, as far as getting people to not join the military , it seems no matter what i say most still join either cuz they want to or cuz they need the money and its an easy way out of their problems and seem oblivious of the problems they'll get for joining but meh if they're too stupid to listen i say let em find out the hard way...
at least they seem to be moving away from the conspiracy of nonsense and actually exposing the corrupt money system and actually offer suggestions for people to start changing... something ive said these documentaries needed to start doing, so looks like a change in the right direction for once, maybe well see more documentaries offering better info and suggestions for people to improve the state of the world.
Instead of just bitching about the problem, it's a breath of fresh air that they offer a 'solution'. I'm with Jacque Fresco. http://www.thevenusproject.com/
The WINNER says "Let me do it for you"
The LOSER says "That's not my job"
The WINNER says "It may be difficult but it's possible"
The LOSER says "It may be possible but it's too difficult"
The WINNER sees possibility and explores it.
The LOSER is closed minded to new ideas.
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 688 Location: Hell on earth
o poo... he forgot to wear his tinfoil hat =\
lol like how he try's to blame the boogie men globalists... first off their not trying to make the world controlled with centralized power... they already did! the central banking system controls over 90% of the planet... i noticed he didn't say anything about the presidents like Lincoln etc who tried to remove the banking system... cry's bout them blaming religious nutters when almost every time its the religious jack offs who are trying to control people, saying its human nature to be competitive and hierarchical is down right ignorance and stupidity... i personally am NOT competitive nor do i care for hierarchy , i neither lead nor follow and know there are actually quite a few others who also don't care for competition and classes... we are TRAINED to be that way and the block head completely over looks that fact... also he claims that people misinterpret the bible to make christians look bad... no, christians misinterpret it and make themselves look bad then actually have the audacity to go and remove passages from their own book just to make it look more kid friendly ie pg rated by removing parts like where it says its ok to rape women etc.
Also he says the system proposed would be forced, i don't think u would have to force everyone to accept the bare necessities of life... that's just stupid... i sure as hell don't know many people who would turn down a free meal let alone a free home, as far as people not being able to do things they want , that's bullshit, if someone wants to sell hot dogs I'm sure it'd be allowed but why would u want to if there was no reason to , the solution that's offered is make everything available to everyone... from food to knowledge , how is this a bad idea...
hes afraid well all be hooked to a grid or get shot, well people are being shot now or shoved in a box for the remainder of their life for ridiculous reasons , so i fail to see how the system we have now is gonna make things better, the so called founding fathers adapted their system from the british system and its changed over the years but its still based on old concepts and we see where it got us today, hell it was warped from a republic to a democracy which is 100x worse, mob rule sux plane and simple, also as far as people living in virtual reality, millions of people around the world spend a good portion of their time playing MMOs and some practically live in them, that's the closest thing we have ot virtual reality and people willingly PAY to live virtual lives cuz theirs either suck that much or because its better then other available entertainment....
all he does is either contradict himself or offer bullshit analysis , instead of actually offering solutions to what he sees as problems he simply condemns them for trying saying its the globalists evil plans , you know the shadow people who use magic and live in the clouds and are so far ahead of us that are puny little minds can never fathom the complexity of it... of course this is coming from a guy who believe in an invisible man who lives in the sky that watches everything we do every second of every day and gets mad when we don't worship him.... what he fails to realize is that we already have people trying to control us and saying one controller or many controller is better then another is redundant, from what i gather the Venus project is based on a voluntary system that completely removes any need for a controller... there is no need for centralized power , the world is already connected to the point where everyone can communicate with everyone else, simply getting together and agreeing on ways to help out mankind as a whole is a possibility , those who wanna be left out and wanna fight over who's imaginary sky daddy is king can do so on their own island away from the rest of the people on the planet who wanna enjoy their lives instead of wasting it fighting and bickering over things that are completely irrelevant! eradicating thing with a voluntary system would trump the current system easily do to the simple fact that people will go where they feel their quality of life is best... whats funny and ironic is the system that works towards eliminating competition will be competing with the old system and if proven to be truly better then people will flock to it and abandon the old one, similar to how people went from kings to presidents , both are horrible but people went with what they felt was better and would improve their quality of life... its also why people from shitty countries try to go to more advanced countries... helping all countries to be equally advanced and independent will negate the need for war, which is never brought by the people and always brought by the leaders, leaders start the wars and the people are left to fight them, alex said that humans by nature love war, for some people this may be true but i don't know many people who enjoy war, cept perhaps those who are in the military =\ this is false tho because people are trained from birth to be followers , to be good worker bees, people are not taught to be independent like all the people that he mentions... further more people are taught that war is acceptable and necessary when it is not... the simple fact is that people are TRAINED to behave certain ways and for the most part it works magnificently and anyone can see it in action by simply taking a look around, not to mention that alex himself is a follower, ALL religious people are followers.... and most are proud to be such....
/rant off
all in all i found his analysis amusing because i was bored so meh, sadly if hes to be taken seriously he had better come up with better arguments then " the secret cities with advanced technology are controlling the masses...."
to be honest im surprised he didn't mention the nwo at all... guess he decided calling them "the globalists" or " the elite" would be a lot less vague then " the nwo" and would make him sound more credible.. sadly he fails, and miserably at that
while i don't trust anyone and take all these documentaries with a grain of salt , however at least the docu made some good suggestions , instead of offering better solutions or even a solution all he did was try to push his the globalists are coming bullshit... saying that there are people who want to control us is fukking redundant and blatantly obvious... instead of saying there they are out to get us which we mostly know why not instead offer ideas on how we stop "them" , and preferably something a little more realistic then write your congressman or protest with signs..... because those suggestions work oh so well
and one last thing, he complained that they over simplified it, i disagree, i think they simplified it enough to get the point across that there's better options and that we can change the way things are going... over complicating things like alex does will get people to forget what he was talking about 5 minute prior to whatever he is currently babbling about... many people have short attention spans and most don't even wanna waste time watching documentaries where theres a guy yelling at you for 2-3 consecutive hours.... (talkin bout alex's documentaries if you didn't catch that)
now what i would really like to see is a documentary that actually teaches people how to make and use the technology that can help set us free , and i mean in depth step by step instructions.... that would really be nice!
Alex Jones interviews Zeitgeist Producer Peter Joseph. (Continued)
Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:52 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8249 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
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Please try to limit the amount of videos per post because some people don't have enough computer resources to handle all the embeds on one page efficiently. There are about 20 posts per page, and if each one had 5 posts, it would be 100 embeds. 1 post per embed would be fine. -thanks!
The main issue I have against Jacque Fresco is that he believes in "Overpopulation". He needs to do some basic math!
Overpopulation has two sides on land issue you are absolutely right. However resources are limited. The increase of the human population in the last century unfortunately didn't come with an increase of proportion of rational minds.
That makes total sense, good to know!