Ok well as you know Daryl's research has stirred up so much controversy. He has a fan base that is dedicated to him and an enemies list trying to destroy him. Amidst all the confusion and slander i decided i wanted the truth, and the only way to get to the truth is to go to the source. I wanted to know more about them because after seeing their research it made perfect sense to me, yet their are tons of people bashing them daily. I talked to Daryl and made an offer. Help us stop the lies and this feud going on. He agreed. We will give him a chance to answer any question and defend any of the allegation made against him. Use this thread to ask any questions you have for him. He will answer them. His only request is that none of the questions be about his personal life, he has family he has to protect but other then that feel free to ask him what you wish. Benjamin i know your one of his biggest followers, so if you and Madthumbs could help organize this here i would appreciate it. I will get conspiracy research and try and get conspiracy central involved. This time their will be no excuses, If he is telling the truth, he can prove it and then we can all back him up This is in no way trying to force people into liking him, this is so you can personally decide for yourself what the truth is. He made it very clear he is more interested in the truth being out then people liking him, so if you dont like him but understand his message then mission accomplished. Any questions you may have for Eric Hufschmid can also be addressed.
ON A PERSONAL NOTE=
Daryl was a very nice guy, very down to earth, we had a long conversation. i could tell he is passionate about what he does and believes in it 100 percent. In my opinon i think most of the hate that people feel for him, is a misconception. He has proven himself trustworthy in my opinion. He also spoke highly of Madthumbs and of this site.
Here's some questions forwarded from Fern who wishes to remain otherwise anonymous for now:
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What made you chose France as a country of residence, and do you feel it impedes or aids your ability to speak ?
What is your favorite drink?
What do you think of the world cup, do you think anything will happen during it ?
Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:21 pm
RANGER
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 122 Location: EVERYWHERE
DBS
I just joined the group and listened for the first time the wmv video of AJ talking about the USS LIBERTY, up until now, I had few doubts that he was disinfo, but after hearing him say that israel military was not to blame because they were just lower end pawns "just following orders," but what is so obvious (at least to me) was that it is these solider pawns that take their direct orders from their superiors, the ISRAELI GOV'T which OBVIOUSLY controls u.s. policies, and is why LBJ gave orders for the pull back of rescue jets and to let the LIBERTY SINK to blame on EGYPT. U.S. goys can come in and do israels dying for them.
AJ: "They (israel) are just a client state of the GLOBALISTS" yes AJ and in the final analysis....(ROTHSCHILD CENTRAL BANKERS=CABAL JEWS>ISRAELI LAP DOGS).
First of all, greetings to the Mosh Pit, this being my first post here at Thumbs site.
I reached simular conclusions as DBS concerning zion, but well before I ever heard of DBS. The information, the interviews on his website reinforced these conclusions. His platform (and my own personal one) revolve around historical events prior to WWI and a speech presented by a certain Benjamin Freedman in the early 60's. I think anyone who listens to this speech will moved into realizing just how the puzzle fits together today. All the supporting information is available on the web (newspaper headlines, documents, etc).
DBS is indeed intense about his knowledge, and it should be obvious that it is consuming much of his free time. I personally like the guy, but I'm not in lockstep with him either. I've also followed others like AJ, Dr William Pierce (National Vanguard), David Duke for many years and they have ALL been instrumental in bringing these things into the light of day. Just because DBS has been going at this head on, does not mean that approach is going to work for everyone. You know what they say, "There's more than one way to skin a cat". I have yet to hear AJs on the USS Liberty incident and it is troubling from what I've read here tonight. None of these guys are perfect in their information.
I watched Loose Change 2 the other day and its layout and editing was superior to anything I had seen so far. Very professional, I wish those fellows the best of luck with getting it out to the public. I will add however to be very wary who controls distribution of this fine video, it really, really needs to be seen by all and ASAP.
These snakes have been at it a long time, and it won't be undone overnight. In fact this could get bloody, right here in america. We need to stick together, there is no room for ego trips, unfortunately this happens a lot and screws up the chances for success.
BTW: Good interview today
Cheers (make all your checks out to Cash)
Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:52 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Lets clarify some things here. It appears that Daryl was led to believe that Giovanni started opposingdigits.com? Would he have gotten the interview or treatment if Daryl knew that Giovanni was actually 2nd in charge at and representing conspiracyresearch.org which Daryl had exposed previously on the air as a controlled site? I'm going to give Majikstranger the benefit of the doubt here.
Does it appear in the interview that he's supporting opposingdigits.com or conspiracyresearch?:
I'm sure I'm not the only one curious about this, so I'm presenting this openly so Majik (aka Giovanni?) can explain.
One of our highly esteemed members here has notified me that conspiracy reasearch is infact WORSE than conspiracy central in regards to censorship of information on Zionism. I don't personally see any reason to believe otherwise. The site is full of the same slanderous people that infest conspiracy central.
MaJik @ CR wrote:
Ok people the interview is done. I must warn you though lol, he caught me off guard, i had a late night and he woke me up. I'll also warn you, he kept mentioning i was involved in opposing digits instead of this site, but i didn mention this site and didnt think to much of it to keep correcting him. I chose to be more reserved and just ask the questions and let them speak so you can hear what they have to say, not just hear me attack them or whatever. All in all i think it was good and hopefully somoe of your questions will be answered
-off guard? no link to the interview? attack? wth?
Please explain MaJik: What went wrong? Was there a miscommunication regarding the site you were representing? What is your thoughts on the alleged censorship of zionist discussion at CR? Was Cypher who runs CR not the one who banned with a bias towards non-Christians at Conspiracy Central while she was administrator? Doesn't Cypher still have admin power at Conspiracy Central? Isn't Conspiracyresearch.org basically the same people and flow the same direction as conspiracy central? Weren't there some very serious allegations lodged back and forth between Cypher and Ctrl (the owners of concen, and conresearch); yet both are working cooperatively now? Which one lied and if we can't trust one, why do they still trust each other? What was the purpose of the split forum when it's fundamentally the same?
As Daryl Bradford Smith has pointed out: Libel concerning things like the accusation of him being a pedophile should not be tolerated on forums by moderators. We won't tolerate it here as long as I have anything to say. I don't care about the "free speech" whiners. Go start your own libel forum. It appears to me that these same slanderous people occupy CR. - Is that the site you want to represent?
Yes Madthumbs it was a misconception, during our off air talks i mentioned to him exactly who i was and that i belong to conspiracy research, i toold him about my history with concen and that i do come to this site but he was told several times i am from conspiracy research. I even mentioned it in the interview that i am involved in conspiracy research. I am just assuming that he is more used to saying opposing digits because he has talked to you and is more familiar with it. As a matter of fact all the emails we exchnaged has "From Conspiracy Research" as the subject. So believe me their is no cover up, or conspiracy here. He just kept tying me to this site and i didnt want to keep interrupting him to clarify over and over again. I didnt see a big deal in it anyways. the subject matter was zionism and conspiracy central so i dont see a big deal. But i will email him and let him know to change it if its that much of a bother and conspiracy.
-off guard? no link to the interview? attack? wth?
Please explain MaJik: What went wrong? Was there a miscommunication regarding the site you were representing? What is your thoughts on the alleged censorship of zionist discussion at CR? Was Cypher who runs CR not the one who banned with a bias towards non-Christians at Conspiracy Central while she was administrator? Doesn't Cypher still have admin power at Conspiracy Central? Isn't c-r.org basically the same people and flow the same direction as conspiracy central? Weren't there some very serious allegations lodged back and forth between Cypher and Ctrl (the owners of concen, and conresearch); yet both are working cooperatively now? Which one lied and if we can't trust one, why do they still trust each other? What was the purpose of the split forum when it's fundamentally the same?
As Daryl Bradford Smith has pointed out: Libel concerning things like the accusation of him being a pedophile should not be tolerated on forums by moderators. We won't tolerate it here as long as I have anything to say. I don't care about the "free speech" whiners. Go start your own libel forum. It appears to me that these same slanderous people occupy CR. - Is that the site you want to represent?
He caught me off guard because we didnt agree to do the interview today, i had a late night and his phone call woke me up this morning and we got to doing the interview so i wasnt exactly all their. I didnt post a link to the interview because i went to work right after the interview wich we finished at 2:20 pm and i had to be at work at 3:30 pm and just got home now at 12:30 am, so their was no link when i left. i didnt even know it was going to be up so fast. I stumbled upon the link accidentally while searching through daryls myspace account.
I myself have not noticed any censorship at conres yet, i know i was attacked for brining up the daryl smith topic and i talked it over with Cypher and i even mentioned that i would quit ConRes if this is the way things will be done
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Cypher, im sorry but if this is what im gonna be faced with everytime i try to action instead of just talking nonesence, i resign as administrator
So as you can see im am not one that is willing to put up with censorship. I can answer for Cypher, all i know is that in our conversations we seem to be on the same page, if something suspicious does go on i will either fight it or just quit all together.
JUST TO AVOID PROBLEMS IF THEIR IS ANYONE HERE THAT IS A MEMBER OF CON. RES. AND THEY EXPERIENCE ANY SORT OF CENSORSHIP, DEAL ONLY WITH ME. PM ME WITH EVIDENC EOR WITH YOU STORY AND I WILL HANDLE IT. I can answer for anyone else, nor do i know anyones motives. I only know that my motives are pure and that i am all about fair and balanced and about truth.
In regards to CTRL and Cypher working cooperatively i dont know, as far as i know conres is Cyphers brainchild and COncen is CTRLs, i have expressed my concerns about conres turning into concen. if that ever happens then i will be gone and do my own experiment. Most know i can be trusted and i associate myself with this site and i dont have anything against ctrl, so by your reasoning, i shouldnt be trusted because one of you 2 cant be trusted. Im giving it time, patience sometimes is all you need and things will become evident.
Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:25 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Ctrl outright lied when he said that Cypher wasn't Grace, and they even played out some drama over it. Reminder: Grace tried to cripple the finances of opposingdigits.
@Majikstranger,
Could you give me an official reason as to why the person we know as Slavo was banned from CR?
I've been listening to DBS for a few months now. He is certainly Anti-Zionist, but goes out of his way to support non-Zionist Jews. He also goes out of his way to disassociate himself with white-supremecists.
“It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends”.
-- From Herzl's Diary
Theodore Herzl founded zionism in 1897.
Do you agree with the fact that some race is above all?
These guys must have some serious problems if they SAY they are better.
Arent they saying it, in attempt to convince themselves that they are better?
Why do they need that?
it is they who need our help,
not we who need their help.
Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:34 am
autocannibal
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 140 Location: the forbidden zone
[2 cents]this isnt the topic of this thread but its a topic i feel very strongly about. the notion that any "classification" of people is better (or worse) than any other is just stupid. to discriminate or even just to feel that someone is less than you just because of their skintone or religon is so illogical that it makes me cringe. [/2 cents]
[2 cents]this isnt the topic of this thread but its a topic i feel very strongly about. the notion that any "classification" of people is better (or worse) than any other is just stupid. to discriminate or even just to feel that someone is less than you just because of their skintone or religon is so illogical that it makes me cringe. [/2 cents]
Then you should be "cringing" when you think about the jewz, zion and israel because this is the racism capital of the world.
"The reason why jews are so well off is because they all help each other
you get loans, doctors, jobs, jewish lenders list never ends
this is why jews are so successful,
they use each other as stepping stones"
This is so naive and I shared that view to the letter, when I was a teenager. It is exactly what they will have you believe, but it is only half true, one side of the coin so to speak. Have you ever been in business? Do you know what a sweetheart deal is? It means that no matter how good you handle your own finances, no matter how you run your business, these "deals" can ruin you. Is that free enterprise? Does that establish a fair market price for whatever you retail or manufacture, no it does not. Just the opposite. You do enough of these under-the-table deals and it has effect. Anyway that's only one explaination and legal, but it is just another case of "deals" that have a negative effect on communitees and government alike.
Digging a little deeper, it is sugar coating on organised criminal activety that requires just that sort of "help" and internal trust in order to exist and function on all levels of the organisation. Their is so much more to this it defies a short explaination. However, if you follow the money enough times, you will wind up at the same place ............
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Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:35 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Quote:
These guys must have some serious problems if they SAY they are better.
Arent they saying it, in attempt to convince themselves that they are better?
-I've thought the same thing. I remember going into a white supremecist IRC channel at one time and humiliating them over this.
Funny, that he was under the impression that you ran opposingdigits and you were representing this site prior to the interview! I confirmed this today in a telephone conversation. In the screen grab we can see you're claiming an "exclusive" at another site. Until the day of the interview I didn't even know your real name. How long before this interview did you propose a partnership (wasn't it 2 days tops?) and why? Were you not aware that I already have a partner and Benjamin Freedman aka Slavo would be more suitable considering your affiliiations and apparent goals?
I think if you wanted to be a reporter; you did a good job of ruining your shot by discrediting yourself. If this is all about my rejection of a partnership; then you've got some issues since you seem willing to overlook Cypher's activities just because she kisses your ass and I don't. I did offer you my support, but didn't want obligations which I believed was best for both of us. What happened to: "I just wanna liberate myself from all these conspiracy central loosers and start the next biggest thing to bring out the truth."? Was I unwise in my response?
