Everyone's an Expert...including Me

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NOTE: a little emotional, so may not be a smooth flowing rant.

with respect to everyone involved in this totally huge mind rape going on, which if you ask me is a total waste of your energy.

You've all ( majority of poster's in relation to this topic ) spent the last month or so debating who's who, who's what, who's right and who's wrong, and just exactly where has it gotten you?

absolutely no-where. you've wasted this time, on ALL side's insulting, bragging on "outing" someone etc etc for what?

"Everyone's an expert, no-one knows anything"

No one involved in this whole snot-bag argument know's everything, in fact i would argue that a great deal of those involved actually know quite little, especially when it come's to other people.

What are you all bloody psychologist's here? Truth Movement? Disinfo Agent? I think anyone that purports to know something about someone else is in fact a "disinfo agent" What is it? you all need to be in some cult to make yourselves feel important in some way?

Not only are you wasting your own time, but imagine how much time your wasting on the people that come to "your" boards ( not directed to anyone specific ) who are only looking for information that may be important for themselves. I suspect, deeply inside, people come and join so called "information houses" such as this one looking for bit's and pieces of information that may be important to "THEM" so as to be able to find some truth within themselves.

--> Information Received -- Pick out what's appropriate to oneself -- discard the rest <--

Is this not how we all find our own TRUTH'S?

Please people, stop giving this shit energy and get back to finding your own truth, what's important to you. The best way, it's seem's to me, is to share whatever information you know, and eventually some kernel of truth important to you, will surface in time. Afterall, how boring a place would this be if we found everything out, "IMPORTANT" to us, all in one shot?

Beside's when honest people get together to share information, talk about experiences etc etc, is it not a more wonderful feeling being HUMAN this way, than to be on some information whore house board deciding who is or is not the expert?

The more you feed this shite, the more it enscapulates your life and energy, and the more you feed these so called "illuminati whore's" who's only sole purpose in this life is to get people to argue amongst themselves, keeping a veil over thine eye's clouding the rape and pillage these bitches and bastards are doing to us all.

YOU ARE DOING THIS TO YOURSELVES, NO-ONE ELSE IS DOING THIS TO YOU

Just stop, take a breath, get some sunshine, go for a walk with someone you love, hold hands and enjoy the fact that your a living breathing human- trying_to -being everything your capable of being. I tell ya it's quite nice to just stop once and awhile and ground oneself to everything that's around you.

Hell you can even try it with someone you hate, see what happens.

Try it, see how you feel, and try to see how much of a waste of time this name calling shite really is.

Cheer's

Tripled

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	You've all ( majority of poster's in relation to this topic ) spent the last month or so debating who's who, who's what, who's right and who's wrong, and just exactly where has it gotten you?

-Please specify... are you gonna defend Alex Jones when he's clearly guilty of treason? What exactly are you talking about so that we can contest it?

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	absolutely no-where. you've wasted this time, on ALL side's insulting, bragging on "outing" someone etc etc for what

Exposing the people that are misleading us is bad? Wasting time is the reptitious crap from Alex Jones, and Loose Change. Wasted time is creating fairy tale scapegoat made up names like "nwo, illuminati, and the self demeaning "elite".

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	No one involved in this whole snot-bag argument know's everything, in fact i would argue that a great deal of those involved actually know quite little, especially when it come's to other people.

That's why this is a forum and not a blog. Consider this: we (in general) aren't blinded by religion and obviously aren't influenced by Zionism.

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	I think anyone that purports to know something about someone else is in fact a "disinfo agent"

"kettle to pot"

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	Not only are you wasting your own time, but imagine how much time your wasting on the people that come to "your" boards

Go take a look at concen or conres and please tell me how you have the nerve to post this crap here and not there. This post of yours is a waste of time.

Cheer's

sadthumbs

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Smartest post ive seen in a long time

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	You've all ( majority Go take a look at concen or conres and please tell me how you have the nerve to post this crap here and not there. This post of yours is a waste of time. Cheer's sadthumbs

Madthumbs, i did not direct this at any "board" directly, but specifically at people who are enamored with this shite about dbs, concen this, opposingdigits that, alex jones is a whatever.

the post say's the rest.

actually i did leave a PS off the post stating TFB if you don't like me cross posting this.

I'm not posting a link to the concen post here, but you can certainly find it there in off topic, same Subject.

as a side note, i'm no longer concerned with conres, and have not been for quite awhile, so this just put's my view out pertaining to the 2 boards i am "concerned" about.

It's not a knock towards boards, board owner's, operators etc etc, just my feelings on the waste of time put into such silly shite as has been going on recently. As i said in my post, all it serve's to do is to distract everyone away from what's truely important for them, atleast in my opinion.

As DBS said in one of his previous show's "don't debate me or the eric guy, debate the message" if it's usefull to you then use it, if not discard it and move on.

EVERYONE of these people that are involved with 911, zionist's, bush, banks etc etc all have some kernel of truth in what there saying, and all i'm saying is find the truth in what they say that's IMPORTANT to oneself and move on.

Tripled

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Well said madthumb, well said. Don't call yourself sadthumb, madthumb is madthumb. It's just name calling and silly.

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the thing about alex jones is - he unfortunately still has the largest audience, cause of this whole media propaganda around him.

we cant stop for simple reason - we need to get his people into real world and save them from "luciferian satanists" and "mexican immigrants" nonsense.

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Thanks for clarifying Tripled. I respect and understand your opinion.

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all i'm trying to do is get people to think logically...not irrationally like out of control freaks.

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	alexclaton2 wrote:
	aj is nuts and needs psychopathic drugs to calm him down.

It's all an act. Doesn't it look wierd how he calms right down during a rant to plug his websites?

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Everyone, I honestly respect tripled's opinion. Remember like a month or two months ago, I was posting news articles like crazy? Well, I stopped because I got pretty isolated and I thought I was just wasting my time. I started building back my relationship with others and I got out and played some soccer. It really felt nicer. My mission right now is to find out the truth but my mission isn't to wake others up. I tried to wakes others but I failed most of the time. I don't get invited to parties if I keep up like that.

We should be friendly and work togerther rather than fight against each other. That's my main point. As long as we're together, we'll be stronger against those who are powerful and evil.

Not everyone in America is blind and this can reflected in the low ratings for Bush. Time will eventually show the truth and the media is not as bad as you think. There are tons of news articles showing the truth. You're just not looking deep enough while filtering out the lies at the same time.

Depression is a wide spread disease in America. Put a smile on your face, be more optimistic and flirt with some girls. Life will be so much better like that.

I'm glad I quickly became an expert in 4 months or it would've surely consumed me.

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	Wasting time is the reptitious crap from Alex Jones, and Loose Change.

I have two videos of Loose Change being promoted by Fox -- Fox 40, to be exact. "The most provocative documentary on 9/11 today" is claimed by the reporter.

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dunno what's going on but we're all getting paranoid due to fear of others spying on us... its USSA Shocked

where is our privacy? *cries*
The human race is becoming enslaved, we're living in a matrix. Lots of confusion, lots of disinfo...

are most people confused? you betcha. what's to believe anymore? most of us don't even know what we're saying anymore
when you have bs and truth mixed in what do ya get? that's right, lots of confusion... people then argue over and over because they can't come to a conclusion hence the mass paranoia phobia.
is education good for us? probably not, its done more harm then good. there's a difference between biased and unbiased information.

let's say they are taught that the world is flat, do ya think they're all going to find out it's really round? if one person speak out, everyone will strongly disagree some were even put to death because they were persistent. that's feudal age, but today everyone just think ya crazy or have too much time and are making up crap.
so in truth i am as frustrated as you are.. some are a waste of our time if they are bias to begin with. they're just their to cause problems by disrupting information. everyone lies so we think its ok to lie.
if american believes they are free when they are not then they are seriously demented and needs a reality check.
their the one needs help, serious help. so they turn to psychotic drugs to make them feel happy because the truth is too painful to swallow! a fantasy is what we all rather have? i could go on and on... and it become pointless because nobody cares about issues that needs to be dealt with, oh no we can't talk about it causes its political and we are too stupid to think. let's leave the few that are smarter then us to make the law and teach our kids cause they know everything..
Shocked

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What would happen to the world if people weren't forced to work? Would technology advance as quick? Like I say, there's a good side to slavery. Let me remind you that although slavery exists, we DO have good working conditions compared to ancient slavery.
Most of the time, I agree there are two points of view for every fact. Education makes us learn from a one side view but it's still better than not learning anything at all. Do I also need to remind you that conspiracy theories ALSO has two points of view? Don't you think that because it's biased, the conspiracy is not that evil?
Privacy. My opinion is we should not sacrifice privacy for temporary security but we should sacrifice privacy for permanent security. To make it clear, a police state is NOT a permanent security. Allowing people to own guns and protect themselves is permanent security.
People understand the world is not flat because the information and evidence was repeated again and again in schools. As Hitler once said, a lie is truth once it's repeated enough in the media. People will eventually believe something that is common knowledge. We all know what a sheeple is.
The truth will eventually be common knowledge because those politicians and whoever else is evil won't know what is reality or illusion because they told too many lies. Plus, I know those people can't sleep every night thinking about their deeds. Please note I'm just referring to Macbeth.
One day spent worrying is one day wasted to actually DO something useful and significant. Worrying helps no one.
Actually, smart people don't make laws. Politicans, congress and presidents do and they're stupid as time and time again, they do something stupid. Most bills created are so stupid that they can't be passed into law. If they were smart, most bills would've been passed.

The most important point is, actions speaks louder than words. If you're going to spread the truth, stop talking and worrying and do something. What I mean is, stop going to conspiracy sites all day because you already learned everything and you don't need to discuss it anymore. Just take 5 minutes each day to check out some conspiracy news and move on in your life. If your mission is to raise awareness, waking people up IN conspiracy sites is useless. Your best bet is to a) go to big-boards.net and post conspiracy stuff on those sites or b) post posters around the town or c) set up your own radio/tv show.
How come alex jones is so popular? Because he was effective at raising awareness as fast as possible using EFFECTIVE methods.

My hobby is not to wake people up. I know one day, everyone will be waked up. Believe it or not, I really don't care. If you are open minded and spend some time to think about it, and remember the history of the Winnipeg General Strike (society against government) then you'll know what I mean. It's no wonder why so many people stay home on election day. Now, time for me to move on.

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Sorry to Tripled for any misunderstanding and undue hostility I had in this thread.

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	madthumbs wrote:
	Sorry to Tripled for any misunderstanding and undue hostility I had in this thread.

This is truely not necessary Madthumbs, been there done that. i don't believe it to be the "vague"-ness of my rant that was resposible for the "emotional" response, but i think it may be what were all "inficted" with, especially considering all the "emotional" responses that have been thrown out in the whole debate.

That being a short quick fuse on justifying/defending our position on something that we feel is important to us. We all have this issue (in some form or other) and atleast myself, am trying real hard to "read" more deeply into what it is i'm reading instead of jumping to the first rung of the ladder and letting loose with my tongue Smile

i am a "disinfo" agent, in so far as i do not necessarliy know what or who someone else is, but through experience, i can point out when i feel something is a waste of time in certain situation's.

As an example, (nothing come's to mind at the moment re: myself) so i'll use the cat chasing it's tail analogy.

The cat will run around in circle's for a god awfull amount of time trying it's damnest to catch the bloody thing, but as with all futile endeavor's, it eventually run's out of steam and becomes not only totally dis-interested with chasing it's tail, but also with everything else around it, seek's out a safe (haven) corner, tuck's it's nose between it's paws, and wraps the same tail it was just chasing (for dear life) around it's face, and at full speed dis-appears into la-la land until refreshed and once again rty catching it's tail.

As with cat's we get into these "arguments" and keep running and running and running, trying our damnest to get a leg up on the opposing side of where we stand. We keep running and running and eventually we get, not only tired with the argument, but tired as well with everything else we have going on, and end up finding some place safe to "hide" out and disappear for a time neglecting most everything that truely is important to us in our lives.

Unlike the cat though, if we continue we risk permanently loosing our desire in the thing's most important to us.

This also is my experience, and it's a very long and hard road trying to re-coop that lost desire.

It may not be everyone's experience, but considering how things ended up with the fighting that went/is still going on, i can't believe most of the people involved picked up a whole lot of "beneficial" information for themselves other than possibly "cementing" themselves on one side of the argument.

I don't know Madthumbs.... there is an awful lot of shit happening now a-days, it even feel's to be "accelerating" as the day's go by. Maybe i ended up posting this due to my desire to see less strife in "my" world, maybe i'm just looking to get more people in my "circle of belief" that are not as troubled with such frivolous things such as they were, more "grounded" if you may... and just maybe i wanted to let off some steam in my frustration's with events going on around all of us.

I really don't know.

i do know something though. We all better get our shit together and get better prepared for helping our-selves out in the next few years, lest we be the one's sitting in a cell somewhere in the near future wondering why "I" spend so much time arguing such trivial matter's when i could have spent the time in a more productive manner helping myself get better prepared and learning how not to end up sitting in this cell that i'm in.

Then again, maybe i'm just so far out in left field, i might as well put my glove down, because there ain't no saving me now.... Wink

Tripled