What is Loose Change Really?

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Regarding the dis-info agents that say we're dividing the truth movement: Should we Investigate the Truth Seekers?

It's producers...

Dylan Avery, Corey Rowe, Jason Bermas

-3 pot heads: If they were a threat to a government conspiracy of this magnitude; the government could have stopped them simply by arresting them for possession.
*no offense to potheads.. we know the conspiracy behind Cannabis.

One if it's promoters...

Alex Jones (Zionist Denier)

Financed by Jewish billionaire family...

Would have us believe that the buildings were blown up by Larry Silverstein, George W. Bush, and the CIA...

"bush is a smaller criminal.
the real hardcore criminals use him as they used Clinton ("i would die for Israel") and others. " -Benjamin Freedman aka Slavo

Would have us believe a missile hit the Pentagon...

911 Case Study: Pentagon Flight 77

"Loose Change suggests that Flight 93 landed in Cleveland instead of crashing or being shot down in Pennsylvania, and that passengers were subsequently secretly evacuated to an empty NASA research building. A number of members of the 9/11 Truth Movement, however, say that there is no evidence for such a claim, and that many witnesses reported seeing and hearing a plane at the crash site."

Christopher Bollyn Article about Loose Change

Loose Change is promoted all over the nation, and by people who will not even acknowledge the existence of Painful Deceptions - A more solid older documentary about 911.

"Dylan, Korey, and Jason do not believe that their video is being promoted because of their age or naivety. However, when I asked them if they had listened to Benjamin Freedman's speech, they said no." - http://www.erichufschmid.net/Avery-Rowe-Bermas-Hufschmid-phonecall.html

Benjamin Freedman's speech

On 15 April 2006 Dylan, Korey, and Jason were interviewed by Air America radio host Fred McChesney. In that conversation they also promoted the idea that the Israelis were trying to warn the US government:
http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=136423

Supporting Videos:
Loose Change Rebuttal
911 Deniers Speak
Screw Loose Change
Screw Loose Change - Not Freakin’ Again Edition

View Loose Change 2 here:

Loose Change 2

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In the interview, Dylan claims that he is anti-zionist and against any jewish state.

Is he lying? And do you have evidence for that?

BTW - I don't think there is anything sinister about Dylan and Co, HOWEVER, there naivety (and lack of coverage) about zionism is being used to push the importance of zionist plots in 9\11 to the margins. Zionist controlled media are using them as pawns. They are more naive than sinister IMO.

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What interview? Every interview I've heard with them or seen them in has only raised more suspicion.

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	madthumbs wrote:
	What interview? Every interview I've heard with them or seen them in has only raised more suspicion.

The one with Eric you posted.

They just seem naive and duped.

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yeah..

'sit back and leave this to us'.. just like the left-right of democrat-republican
it's 'official media' and 'alternative media'

'the scholars for truth' are taking over the debate,
are becoming the official spokespeople.

the alex jones-woken sheeple.. the alex-sheeple,
are to sit back and let the scholars and dudes like himself take care of it.
or else just spread his vids and material around.
regurgitating his words.

israel was involved in sep11.. but loose change doesn't say so.

and alex jones flatly denies it. he 'ho ho ho's it.

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If you were a Zionist in their position, how would you play it?

When asked if they would include any information about Zionism in the final cut; I believe they replied "no". If they were just naive; why would they be like that? They had 4 opportunities now to add this information that is more credible than much of what they've been using.

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	madthumbs wrote:
	If you were a Zionist in their position, how would you play it? When asked if they would include any information about Zionism in the final cut; I believe they replied "no". If they were just naive; why would they be like that? They had 4 opportunities now to add this information that is more credible than much of what they've been using.

Yes, they may well be doing this on purpose, HOWEVER, they may still be naive about the extent of zionism - as they do not deny it all together.

Remember, I and a lot of others used to be oblivious of the extent of zionist involvement in 9\11. There is a lot more grey out there than you think. It's not ALL "it's either your a zionist exposer or your with the zionists" kind of thing, that's too black & white and newcomers to this site may PERCEIVE that as paranoia and be put-off.

I don't want this movement to be marginalised even more; we need to choose our words carefully and think carefully when making accusations or assumptions.

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Considering how badly they were harassing Eric Hufschmid about the expose he did; I'd think they'd put it in their priority interests to learn what Zionism is. I seriously doubt they're naive about it. Their very best defense would be that they're more concerned about being stars than exposing truth.

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	madthumbs wrote:
	Considering how badly they were harassing Eric Hufschmid about the expose he did; I'd think they'd put it in their priority interests to learn what Zionism is. I seriously doubt they're naive about it. Their very best defense would be that they're more concerned about being stars than exposing truth.

Evidence?

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PersianPaladin wrote:

	madthumbs wrote:
	Considering how badly they were harassing Eric Hufschmid about the expose he did; I'd think they'd put it in their priority interests to learn what Zionism is. I seriously doubt they're naive about it. Their very best defense would be that they're more concerned about being stars than exposing truth.

Evidence?

When I come across it; it will likely be posted in the first post. I didn't plan on making this thread back when I saw and heard it. I've spent hours searching for the media and would prefer at this point to just happen on it since it will probably turn up again.

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PersianPaladin,
if you think that Loose Change people are uneducated,
i suggest you post those things with facts on their boards, and repost your results here Smile

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Focus your atention in the part of the conspiracy that touches you. Stop thinking about politics.
You are too insignificant to be fisically controlled. This is about mind control and their tool is tv.
Stop watching it now . Also the anime and videogames ,and stop spending all your time in internet.

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Great analogy:

	Code:
	http://www.erichufschmid.net/If-I-were-a-Carpenter.html

	Quote:
	If I were a carpenter, and you wanted a table, would you visit my showroom, or turn to Dylan Avery?

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just a question, why do you support putting "Screw loose change" link in this thread? That whole blog is for the official 911 commission report, and work with debunking911.com, a site that specializing in debunking the 911 conspiracies.

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