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IllumiNate



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look there is a lot of stuff to cover here so please pay attention and focus. This will be very short and to the point so if you have any in-depth questions post them accordingly. Most IMPORTANTLY these are my views and everyones are different so read it and if you dont agree we have something else to discuss. and sometimes I rant on stuff so watch your numbers and letters I will try to * the rants.

I guess the only real place to start are with the SUMERIANS.
1. Sumerians are the first civilization that we have a record of (yeah I know about Atlantis and Lemuria but that is all speculation as far as I am concerned). They are the ones that lived between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in what we call Mesopotamia or the fertile cresent.
a.the sumerians claim that a group called the ANNUNAKI or NEFILIM if you read the bible
b.they believe that this interplanetary group came to earth when their home planet was close to depletion. Their planet is part of our solar system having an elliptical orbit(hot dog shaped instead of the circular one that we are used to), they say that the orbit is about 3600 years to 1 of their days.
c.the sumerians claim that these beings took homo erectus and through genetic manipulation with their own DNA created homo sapien (the reason why there is a missing link in our own genealogy). It is said then that these newly fashioned homonids were created for slavery (kinda makes ya mad as you work for the man doesnt it) there is proof of this in southern africa where they have found gold mines that are older thatn civilzation itself.
d.It is said that the Annunaki knowing that their planet was nearing would cause a huge gravitational pull on our small blue planet. this gravtational pull would be so strong that it would pull and melt the ice caps causing a huge flood. (this I believe is where you get the great flood myths in all civilizations)
e. One of these annunaki alerts one of his slaves to build a boat and survives.

that is lesson 1. quick and to the point I have more info on this subject than what was put in but Im not a typin freak and it takes me awhile so please be patient with me as I will with you. lesson 2 coming shortly.
Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:30 pm
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Eclisis



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the problem i have with this theory is: b.

ether way if the planet is in a eliptical orbit or a rogue planet, all the water on the planet whould be ice because it is to far from a sun to heat up the water. so this planet whould not be a nice place for life it self.

c: why would a people that have the power to create scout robots and intersteller space craft , make a man out of 1 of -+ 21 kinds of walking ape's?

and why mine on a habitable planet if u have the power to mine else where?


these are the things that conflict the story in my eyes
Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:19 am
madthumbs



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I think the movie K-Pax explains some of this in a way. -Great movie btw!
Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:19 am
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ether way if the planet is in a eliptical orbit or a rogue planet, all the water on the planet whould be ice because it is to far from a sun to heat up the water. so this planet whould not be a nice place for life it self.

Your thinking of life based upon human knowledge - yes it is true that life here on earth depends on water for survival but who it to say that this would be the case for other planets. One thing to keep in mind: the only facts that exist in life are based on another mans interpretation of a thing or event
Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:08 pm
IllumiNate



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Maybe we should go farther into history to see how our planet was created this I think would answer your objections...sorry not feelin well another time dont mean to tease yall
Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:27 pm
Eclisis



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ether way if the planet is in a eliptical orbit or a rogue planet, all the water on the planet whould be ice because it is to far from a sun to heat up the water. so this planet whould not be a nice place for life it self.

Your thinking of life based upon human knowledge - yes it is true that life here on earth depends on water for survival but who it to say that this would be the case for other planets. One thing to keep in mind: the only facts that exist in life are based on another mans interpretation of a thing or event



im just useing logic..so we agree on the fact it is verry cold on planet 'x'

now that the planet is eliptical orbit , u think it turns around it axis in a "normal" "dayisch " way?

if the planet is so far form the sun at some times and ur tele scoops haven't seen it .... i whould be a dark planet.

so no water and no photosynthesis ...and that means no 02
Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:27 am
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IllumiNate wrote:
look there is a lot of stuff to cover here so please pay attention and focus. This will be very short and to the point so if you have any in-depth questions post them accordingly. Most IMPORTANTLY these are my views and everyones are different so read it and if you dont agree we have something else to discuss. and sometimes I rant on stuff so watch your numbers and letters I will try to * the rants.

I guess the only real place to start are with the SUMERIANS.
1. Sumerians are the first civilization that we have a record of (yeah I know about Atlantis and Lemuria but that is all speculation as far as I am concerned). They are the ones that lived between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in what we call Mesopotamia or the fertile cresent.
a.the sumerians claim that a group called the ANNUNAKI or NEFILIM if you read the bible
b.they believe that this interplanetary group came to earth when their home planet was close to depletion. Their planet is part of our solar system having an elliptical orbit(hot dog shaped instead of the circular one that we are used to), they say that the orbit is about 3600 years to 1 of their days.
c.the sumerians claim that these beings took homo erectus and through genetic manipulation with their own DNA created homo sapien (the reason why there is a missing link in our own genealogy). It is said then that these newly fashioned homonids were created for slavery (kinda makes ya mad as you work for the man doesnt it) there is proof of this in southern africa where they have found gold mines that are older thatn civilzation itself.
d.It is said that the Annunaki knowing that their planet was nearing would cause a huge gravitational pull on our small blue planet. this gravtational pull would be so strong that it would pull and melt the ice caps causing a huge flood. (this I believe is where you get the great flood myths in all civilizations)
e. One of these annunaki alerts one of his slaves to build a boat and survives.

that is lesson 1. quick and to the point I have more info on this subject than what was put in but Im not a typin freak and it takes me awhile so please be patient with me as I will with you. lesson 2 coming shortly.



Interesting. Not trying to make a fuss but can you substantiate that with some evidence from sumarian artifacts and/or a proven direct line of oral tradition to the sumarians? Because as far as I know the only real evidence we have of sumarians is art and oral tradition theories of origin.
Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:08 am
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http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=19057 February 18, 2006 wrote:

Search for alien life challenges current concepts

For scientists eying distant planets and solar systems for signs of alien activity, University of Colorado at Boulder Professor Carol Cleland suggests the first order of business is to keep an open mind.

It may be a mistake to try to define life, given such definitions are based on a single example -- life on Earth, said Cleland, a philosophy professor and fellow at the NASA-funded CU-Boulder Center for Astrobiology. The best strategy is probably to develop a "general theory of living systems," she said.

Many biologists agree the best definition of living systems today is the "chemical Darwinian definition" involving self-sustaining chemical systems that undergo evolution at the molecular level, she said. But the theory is limited in that life on Earth probably resulted from physical and chemical "contingencies" present at the time of its origin on the planet.

"What we really need to do is to search for physical systems that challenge our current concept of life, systems that both resemble familiar life and differ from it in provocative ways," she said. Cleland participated in an astrobiology symposium at the annual American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting held in St. Louis Feb. 16 to Feb. 20.

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