grace the disinfo agent exposed as Cypher

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Last edited by madthumbs on Fri May 12, 2006 3:15 pm; edited 1 time in total

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There you have it. The queen of disinformation!

The one who manipulated Ctrl, and promoted the Christian Agenda by banning non Christians.

and

The one that tried to hurt our funding by violating affiliate TOS's here with pointless scare mongering.

Funny, I told someone through pm that I thought it was her.

Now why would that "Christian" want to bring us down deceitfully? Wink

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Is this how "christians" get away with lying?:

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Slip up? Talking about self in third person?

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She also knows that The Judge has account on CC tracker Slavo2 (this you can find) and what is more interesting he had long ago the account Slavo on forums. (note without 2 Smile

)

Greetings, Cypher!

Edit: Mrs.Cypher a.k.a. grace managed to erase that topics on CC.
Or was it Mike?
Good that we have screenshots.

Edit2: The topics was actually moved to another location and locked.

Last edited by Benjamin Freedman on Sat May 13, 2006 10:02 am; edited 1 time in total

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It's funny to see images of my posts here
how about forgeting the last 3-4 enteries and answer either of u Mad or Slavo
some of the questions I asked

Was the famous 1961 speak given in front of the American Nazi Party ?

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	Ognir wrote:
	It's funny to see images of my posts here how about forgeting the last 3-4 enteries and answer either of u Mad or Slavo some of the questions I asked Was the famous 1961 speak given in front of the American Nazi Party ?

Rules of Disinformation:
#17. Change the subject.

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People may think I'm jumping to conclusions about some people. I assure you that there are evidences you don't see that I do.

Can you trust Ctrl's vouche for her when he himself was accusing her of keeping backdoors, and secret admin accounts with his forum? His accusations of not handing the forum back over, etc? Not that I think all of this really happened (It was likely a diversion and publicity stunt like normal), but if you believe it then you still have little reason to believe what he says. Recall the accusations back at him about how he was silently pulling the strings there? This all came out on his forum.

I've been told to check IP's by her. Well any admin should know how to use a PROXY right?, and we know she's an admin. Does she think I'm that stupid? This is one reason their silly IP blocker is pointless. Even mac address's and cookies can be spoofed. People familiar with the forum in question likely saw how people are blocked from it simply based on their IP with no apologies. What was said about it? Something like "I don't care if you donated a million *ing dollars"? Blocking government agencies would only raise red flags and draw more attention. There's obviously another reason for the IP blocker.

Still beyond this I have greater evidence than I share here that goes beyond IP address's but, it's important for me to keep it confidential. I'm getting plenty of rest lately and am not going off the deep-end I assure you.

I know of 3 other non-Zionist controlled conspiracy forums out there. They are very different than the garbage you're probably used to being fed and manipulated with.

I don't ask you to trust me about all of this. I do ask that you keep yourself from ignorance and see things for what they are for yourself. That's why we host the rules of disinformation and Should we Investigate the Truth Seekers. Disinfo agents hate this kind of information. We DON'T!

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	madthumbs wrote:
	People may think I'm jumping to conclusions about some people. I assure you that there are evidences you don't see that I do

Please enlighten us then.. Share your evidence and prove cypher is grace. What do you see that we don't, mad? Rolling Eyes

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faust , i have privately shown you multiple times that

1. cypher has no problem to lie and does it often
2. cypher is engaging in commie-like censorship - remember the incident on conspiracy research?
3. now indications are pointing out that this is another of her manipulation tricks
- even most notorious spammer Ognir thought that grace = Cypher rofl

why do you think is that Faust?

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Ognir started another thread of DBS being an agent, because of DBS exposes hoaxers.

I gave a clear documented example of how Daryl Smith with Hufschmid proved Morgan Reynolds to be a disinfo or blackmailed guy to show others example of it.
(in case all of you dont know - he warned Reynolds on 21st February about attempts to push "bluescreen" hoax. One week later Morgan published an article promoting it.)

Cypher moved that post to other thread (apparent provocation attempt).

She named the thread as "Listen to Benjamin Freedman's speech...", which has apparently nothing to do with the issue discussed.
Then i politely asked her at first to simply rename the thread so it's name represents what it says.
She said i have no "rights" to do that (there is some sort of hierarchy structure on that site - more to that later).
Instead of how you claim "talking to me" - she sent "Z" to talk to me, even that she knows my ICQ number.

During that period she managed to EDIT my post, where i wrote

	Quote:
	Ok since my post was relocated by a supposed "thread hijack"

to

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	Ok since my post was relocated and renamed by admin after my thread hijack before, im gonna start new one

She also disabled my ability to edit mine posts.

Next PM i sent her that i would post the thread with same information + with title which characterizes what it says, so people can actually read it.

Cypher - disabled my PM ability, and put me on censorship - means that posts went to her and then if she approves it, they will be posted.
During that period i registered as other user to find out that actually all posts from my IP range are censored.
She later allowed only 1 post to slip in - the post with my Slavo username with no response to what is going on, just "test".
My actual response never made it.

After that she banned me + banned my all IP ranges (known to her Smile

).

now she renamed the thread

tell her that i still can access the site (and found out how to just now - isn't life beautiful when you fight lies?)

How could Ognir who knows Cypher so well came to conclusion that Cypher = grace faust?

Oh, faust you start to sound like Ognir.
use letter "u" next time

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irc://irc.efnet.net:6667/Opposing_Digits wrote:

<Fern> cypher is grace
<madthumbs> he is; no doubt there
<madthumbs> hah! ctrl denies that
<Fern> yeah its what i suspect
<Fern> i know how forums work
<madthumbs> do you have evidence on cypher being grace?
<Fern> nicknames dont just drop
<Fern> only based on how forums work
<madthumbs> they even played out some hate between ctrl and grace, yet cypher is still an admin at cc
* Fern has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
* Fern has joined #Opposing_Digits
<Fern> sorry, wifi cut out
<Fern> only based on how forums work
<Fern> cypher has posted as grace before which you have seen
<Fern> and nicknames dont just drop, especially so quickly
<Fern> i can leave concen for 6months and my password will still work and username active
<Fern> but she wants people to think it just dropped maybe and someone else took the exact same nickname
<Fern> and not only that, but agreed with what she had to say

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im kinda new to this whole scene and have never been to concen. but it sounds really really bad.am i to understand that they ban people for not being a cristian? and suspiciously (possibly) profit from donations? when was that site created? wtf is wrong with the admins? thats adding to the reason that conspiracy theorists get a bad rep in the world today. (not to mention because "they" want it to be that way)

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Cypher wrote:

Edit: regarding censorship on ConCen, I fired 3 moderators over there for deleting posts / inappropriate censorship. Madthumbs was the first to be shown the door, partly due to this, partly due to his persistant abuse of the troll pit for any threads where members disagreed with his opinion, & also for abusing his power as a moderator by winding people up & then exacting revenge on them; Chessmuscle was his favourite target, & Madthumbs was downright abusive in his treatment of him. Since Madthumbs obviously fancies himself as a bit of a spin-merchant these days, I would doubt that he will be happy to admit that he was fired, or the reasons for it, but there you have them.

	Code:
	http://www.conspiracyresearch.org/forums/Censorship-t736.html

Cypher never fired me to my knowledge -lol. She removed me as moderator from their religion forum as she stated in a PM to me: because of my avatar which she found offensive (for religious reasons)-I was still moderator of other forums there and even registered as a moderator up until the day Ctrl removed all moderators ( long after I publicly QUIT ). I did not abuse the troll pit, I didn't even condone it. Chessmuscle continually put words in my mouth (misquotes), was warned about it repeatedly, and should have been banned for trolling, harassing, libel, etc. Since the admin wasn't doing their job; I did what I could. Again here it was favoritism of a Christian who by all means should have been banned. Open mouth --> insert foot Cypher.

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I was actually privvy to that dispute. I seem to recall several posts outright disappearing, much like the credibility of any claim, by you, as being a Christian. It is to CM's credit that you were revealed as the wolf in sheep's clothing you have now come to be. In hind sight, when he questioned your Christianity did he not actually help you determine that you in fact were a goat rather than a sheep with an identity crisis?

Get a grip.