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What About Multiple Sclerosis?
im curious what about ms, from what ive been told its the immune system being over immune and it starts destroying itself
jus curious if anyone know of any other causes of ms and any possible cures , i heard that certain foods cause it and simpy not eating those foods will make it go away..
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I had Lupus symtoms that I recovered from. Lupus is also considered an "auto-immune" disease, yet people get auto-immune diseases from ruptured breast implants, or additives in pharmaceuticals. It makes sense that MS could be symptoms of poisoning or toxic levels of something else. I've seen it linked in the past to things like aluminum, grains, grain fed meat, pork, soy etc. I'm pretty sure that at least one cause for it is environmental. I used to live in an area where MS was more common than normal. I have read of people recovering from it through a restrictive diet, cleansing therapies, and a myelin sheath supporting diet.
It took years for Dyanna Saint Jon to be diagnosed with MS and even then the conventional treatments left her with a poor quality of life. But her own research into the disease allowed her to turn things around. Through nutrition she says she was able to conquer MS. Her book is “Stepping Outside the Box: Defeating Multiple Sclerosis.”
Gregory Mantell has been called one of the best interviewers in America.
The Gregory Mantell Show is a weekly 1/2-hour cable TV talk show that airs in LA and New York. The program focuses on experts, the entertainment industry, and health & fitness.
Simple principles that will help virtually any autoimmune disease like rheumatoid arthritis and multiple sclerosis.
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Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:38 pm
alexclaton
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 817 Location: Hell on earth
k thanx, im curious cuz my dad has ms now so im lookin on ways to help him aside from what they are doin which isnt helping at all...
his right side has little to no strength and now his left arm has its senses backwards ( cold feels hot and hot feels cold)
imma check this natural cures pdf i have to see if itll help
Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:44 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
I've done a few hours of research on MS before, but was mistakingly going to MS specific sites where anyone that proposes a cure is immediately silenced. It makes it very hard to find cures because of this controlled funneling and censorship (like the religion at uknowwhere).
Here's something I just came across you might be interested in reading. I wasn't expecting much from the url, but it looks like it may have something going for it. I personally avoid supplements or any pills like the plague now.
Found this doing a web search for these words "foods myelin sheath repair". There's probably a lot more good reads to find that way.
Treatment Protocol for Multiple Sclerosis (M.S.)
By Herbalist Alan Tillotson
Protocol for using Planetary Formula’s CNS Myelin Sheath Repair
(for 130-160 pound person)
1. Myelin Sheath Support 2 pills three times per day.
2. Alpha-Lipoic acid 250 mg 1 pill twice a day
3. Vitamin E (mixed tocopherols) 400 iu 1 pill 2 times per day
4. DHA 250 mg 1 pill twice a day / or Evening Primrose 500 mg (hexane free
135 mg GLA) 2 pills twice/day
5. Blueberries 1/2 cup/day or one frozen bag per week
Estimated length of therapy:
At least three months is needed to assess the usefulness of the therapy for a
person. There is an initial increase in energy, followed by a much slower
gradual return of function. I estimate at 6-9 months major benefits begin to
level out and hold steady, though some patients continue to improve more very
slowly over the next several years. Severely damaged nerves cannot be
restored, so advanced cases improve, but not completely. Fatigue returns
whenever patients discontinue the therapy for more than a week or so.
Dietary Instructions:
Diet for Strengthening Nervous System
Information Sheet from Chrysalis Natural Medicine Clinic (302) 994-0565
Favor
General: Highly nutritive and easy to digest foods (both, not one) are key
to healing the nervous system. Favor soups, warm foods and drinks. Drink
spring water, especially with meals. All foods should be fresh, and organic
if possible. Try to maintain regular meal times & adequate sleep. Use both a
multi-vitamin and multi-mineral.
Grains: Wheat, rice, corn or oatmeal (unless your are allergic). Favor
well-cooked whole grains with spices or warm cereals.
Dairy: Avoid dairy products, use substitutes (see separate handout).
Sweeteners: Sucanat (natural cane sugar), Molasses, Maple syrup.
Oils: Olive, sunflower, canola, evening primrose oil, fish oils, flax oil,
borage oil. Use low quantities of oils, high quality only.
Avoid / Reduce
General: Avoid dieting and fasting, stale foods, and ice cold drinks. Also
avoid canned or prepared foods, foods with chemical additives, foods with
hydrogenated oils and fats. excess alcohol, candy, cake, sugary sweets, and
nutrasweet.
Sweeteners: Avoid unhealthy sweets like cake, pies etc. Natural sweets, such
as fruits and grains are much better.
Oils: Low quality oils are very inflammatory
Grains: All grains are good to use.
Vegetables: Reduce raw veggies (except lettuce and carrots) if hard to
digest, as well as cabbage, cauliflower, zucchini, and turnip. (All should be
limited, taken in small quantities and well cooked.)
Spices: Avoid excess amounts of hot spices, fenugreek, cayenne pepper, chili,
cloves, salt, mustard.
Proteins: Avoid peanuts, and beans except lentils (unless with spices or
"beano." )
About Fats & Oils
Fat is the most abundant substance in your body after water. More than 70% of
your brain and nerve cells are made of fat, and the membrane of every cell in
your body is 30% fat.
There are about two dozen total fats (lipids) in the body, and two, called
essential fatty acids or EFA’s, must come from your diet. The two are omega-6
and omega-3. Your cells use EFA’s for energy production, your glands use
EFA’s to make healthy secretions, and EFA’s help your immune system work.
They also nourish your skin, hair, mucous membranes and the meylin sheath
surrounding your nerves.
Bad Fats
Bad fats are those that are rancid, imbalanced, overly saturated,
over-cooked, or modified by modern food processing.
Margarine
Shortening
Red Meats
Dairy Products
Chips
Fried Foods
Pastries
Good Fats
Good Fats are those that contain a healthy balance of EFA’s. and are fresh,
unheated and unprocessed
Supplements
Many people, especially those suffering from inflammatory diseases, need to
supplement their oils. The best choices include fish oils containing DHA and
EPA, evening primrose or borage oils, and flaxseed oils. It is always
important to take extra Vitamin E with oil supplements to help absorb them.
Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:03 pm
alexclaton
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 817 Location: Hell on earth
thanx a lot, i really apreciate the help
ill see if i can get him to change some of his eating habits , dont know about the pills tho...
Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:41 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
I posted a query to misc.health.alternative for you, but no good results came in yet.
Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:46 pm
alexclaton
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 817 Location: Hell on earth
not that i know of, ill have to see what hes been eating
Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:19 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Caesar J. B. Squitti @ misc.health.alternative wrote:
There are two probable causes, and simple cures for MS.
Both of which is not what the 'business of drugs' wants to find.
1. A contaminant.
2. A bacteria, much like those found for Crohns or Ulcers.
In this case the bacteria renders the absorption of key chemicals
impossible and the symptoms are the disease. The key word here is
'parasites'.
Remember each person may react to the same 'problem' differently.
In both some sort of detoxification is necessary.
I am attaching this posting concerning Schizophrenia, with the hope
that you may be further motivated to seek a simple solution for these
simple problems, and understand why the 'research' systems are rather
ineffective in finding a simple cure...
attachment wrote:
Treatment for Schizophrenia.
It took me some 6 months of research to discover that the current
definition of half-truth, lie and truth were incomplete. Sometimes the
most obvious is overlooked.
In regards to Schizophrenia, the logic of the disease may suggest that
their may be a somewhat simple explanation for the 'chemical
problems'...and the related symptoms; a corrupted intestional system,
usually infected by some sort of bacteria that is rendering the
absorption of key chemicals ineffective.
My personal experiences with a tenant labelled as schizophrenic
suggested that he also had severe intestional problems, and it would
seem that a connection between the two was never considered.
The cause, is difficult to detect, however one should appreicate that
we label these symptoms, based on the inability of finding an organic
cause; that is not the best strategies, since ulcers, and now Crohns
have been found to be caused by a bacteria.
I would suggest the following:
1. Anti-parasite be it a wide spectrum antibiotic or garlic, etc....
2. High fiber and water..
3. Probiotic, ie yogart.
This particular treatment is simple, inexpensive, and MAY work. If it
does then I would suggest to move on to some other possible cause. A
bacterial or parasitic cause seems very, very probable.
There was also another possible link, and that is over the counter
prescription drugs. It was noted that some individuals experienced
schizophrenic incidents after flu like symptoms. The discovery that
certain over the counter cold / flu medications contain amphetamine
like components, ie PPA, suggests that these episodes may have been
caused by not a flu virus but the over the counter drug that was taken
for the flu; suggesting a drug company cover-up.
This psychic reading given by Edgar Cayce at his home on Arctic Crescent, Virginia Beach, Va., this 25th day of January, 1939, in accordance with request made by Dr. Charles Goodman Taylor, through the Manager of the Association for Research & Enlightenment, Inc., Mr. Hugh Lynn Cayce.
P R E S E N T
Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Hugh Lynn Cayce and Edgar Evans Cayce.
R E A D I N G
Time of Reading 169 East 78th St. 3:50 to 4:10 P. M. Eastern Standard Time. New York, N.Y.
1. GC: You will have before you the request from Dr. Charles G. Taylor of ... St., New York, N.Y., for a research reading on the disease known as Multiple Sclerosis. You will consider the following statement from Dr. Taylor: "The material pathology of Multiple Sclerosis is a disease of nerve fibres in the spinal cord and brain. The insulating sheaths of these fibres are evidently attacked by some destructive agent which causes them to 'melt away' and be replaced by fibrous tissue." Please answer the following questions.
2. EC: In giving the true pathological condition, as we find this condition of the spinal cord and of the brain is rather the result of conditions which arise in the assimilating system from the lack of a balance in the hormones of the blood supply.
3. And it is then a nerve condition, but IMPOVERISHED from the lack of this condition in the bloodstream, or the glandular forces as supply from the system those elements necessary to give the elasticity or that activity which is necessary.
4. Then this is the source, and the condition in the spinal cord and brain is the effect of that called Multiple Sclerosis.
5. The condition, of course, in each individual may be said to be a law unto itself. This, to be sure, is dependent upon that influence from which the activity of the first cell is taken in a body or entity.
6. Now as the nerve system is that channel through which the atomic energies, or electronic atomic energies pass for activity, there is then the lack of certain elements within the system and in the abilities of the body to produce through the activity of the assimilating system that of GOLD.
7. Ready for questions.
8. (Q) Is this condition produced by an unbalanced diet, or functional failure of glands?
(A) A combination! For as has just been indicated, in determining the factor as to whether this is a glandular or a diet condition, there must be the HISTORY of the case itself considered, and the effect there has been upon the parentage as to the sufficient amount of the cellular force ABOUT each of those atomic forces as go to make up the first cell - or the first foetus itself.
9. (Q) If it is a case of unbalanced foods, what should be added?
(A) This depends upon the progress of it. But as has been indicated, it is then the effect of gold - the atomic effect of gold that should be added to the system.
10. (Q) Which glands are involved?
(A) Those about the liver and gall duct.
11. (Q) What is the nature of the process of the breaking down of the sheaths of these nerve fibres?
(A) Nerve fibre is both positive and negative, or both white and gray matter, as it passes through the activity of the system. When there is a deficiency of that which supplies to the negative or positive force, there is a drain then that begins upon the system. And as there is the lack of those elements that give stamina or energy to the activity of that portion, it begins first then in those forms of a drain or strain and these GRADUALLY then take away or they dissolve, or their cells instead of being round in their nature become elongated and gradually pull apart. Thus the system attempting to build resistance from same causes the losing of the use of any of the energies necessary to replenish same. It's a WASTING away.
12. (Q) Describe the original process which begins in the liver and gall bladder area.
(A) The cellular force here, or the glandular activity, draws from the spleen, pancreas and the juices or the excretory functioning of the liver, in the activity of assimilation with the drainage forces from the lacteals.
This then, lacking in the energies, gradually builds conditions that become hardening forces; which form in that connection between the gall duct itself AND the activity to the larger glands in their assimilation such that a hardening of that portion begins.
Then these gradually act upon the nerve system; by first, as it were, the loss of memory for the moment, then the conditions that may be set up either in the lower portion of the spinal cord or that about the brush end, and those activities gradually increase until they affect or move along the cord itself (in a portion of same) to the brain. And these begin then in the activity upon the use of various portions of the system.
13. (Q) Is any outside agent or germ involved in this process?
(A) We do not find it so. Rather is it the lack of keeping the proper balance about each cell in its division as it increases in its activity.
14. (Q) Is this a lack of nerve energy to this particular cell, or a poison which is forming and attacks?
(A) A poison, naturally. The lack of there being sufficient [nerve energy] makes for a poison to other cells about the original, or the central forces of such activity.
15. (Q) What can be done to prevent this disease?
(A) Keeping a nominal balance of those things in the system that make for keeping the normal balance of the elements or the metals for the system.
Most of these may be tested especially from the spermatozoa.
16. (Q) What is meant by that last statement, - please explain?
(A) The reproductive glands first become noticed, as to the lack of those elements for reproduction. Then when these are discovered, - a lacking in these, - there would be the addition then of the gold necessary.
17. (Q) Is this best to be given vibratorially, or taken internally?
(A) Vibratorially is always better for ANY that is a preventive or a destructive force to those influences from within a cellular activity.
18. (Q) What general steps should be taken in curing it?
(A) As has been indicated, or may be drawn from an analysis of that just indicated, there should be the proper distribution. This, of course, depends upon very much the advanced stage of the condition. This is presupposing that it's taken with the first symptoms, see? or the beginning of sterility, or the inactivity from the system as it may be called. The adding then of those vibratory forces as combined with the elements in the diet would be to make for sufficient of gold, silver and iron in the bloodstream.
19. (Q) What suggestions may be given now as to further research readings on this subject through this channel? And explain for Dr. Taylor's benefit the source of the information given here.
(A) This may be taken by first the examinations of that as we have just indicated, and as to how it checks with those conditions existent in the varying stages of that which has been called Multiple Sclerosis. Then those questions relative to the conditions as they advance, or the effect which has been and is created in the various stages upon individual cases. Then there may be asked for that as would clarify same in the mind of one desirous of making application of information that might be given.
Sources - the universal consciousness.
20. We are through for the present.
Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:52 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
The most compelling evidence I've come across for causes of MS is Excitotoxin damage. Read Russell Blaylocks book Excitotoxins:The taste that kills. MS occurs in the Hypothalamus area of the brain which is the same area these excitotoxins destroy. The only drugs that have halted these horrific diseases are the ones that block these toxins, of course they'll never reach the public. Russell Blaylock is a neurosurgeon that has performed countless studies backed up by thousands of others. Magnesium is the substance that closes the cell after being fired by the neurotransmitters glutamate and aspartate which are made and used in miniscule amounts by the brain. It can take up to 6 months of daily consumption of Magnesium before it can reach the center of the brain for maximum protection. Vitamins C and E protect the brain from additional free radical damage if there is excitotoxin brain damage. http://truthinlabeling.org/ gives a ful list of hidden forms of MSG. There's over 50.
Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:16 pm
ThE_ViSiOnArY
Joined: 22 Sep 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Greenfield, WI
what i read
i dont know how accredited Kevin Trudeau's Natural Cures book is, but i read that dietary changes, supplements, cleanses, and exercise can help MS drastically. this seems feasible because depression/ms both can be caused by heavy metals.
Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:38 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Trudeau though he's right on many things, is also a con/bullshit artist. Compare his pay website to this free one. I've had free access to his site and didn't find a single thing worth noting. He was lacking a lot of the great information we have here on cancer, AIDS, fibromyalgia, lupus, etc. He teaches a cure-all lifestyle which should work fine for most people, but he fails to identify specific causes and includes some voodoo type product BS that will contribute to emptying wallets.
*Notice that no one ever quotes him on cures for specific diseases. When his fans are confronted for information; they're left like a deer caught in headlights.
Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:46 am
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
Vitamin D may cut multiple sclerosis risk, study finds Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:57pm ET31
By Will Dunham
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - People with higher levels of vitamin D have a markedly reduced risk of developing multiple sclerosis (MS), according to a study published on Tuesday that may point to a promising way to protect against the disease.
Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:41 pm
madthumbs
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 8599 Location: Fingerlakes - NY usa
French Court Rules Vivisector Glaxo's Vaccines Cause Multipl
A French court has upheld a lower court ruling that found a link between GlaxoSmithKline's hepatitis B vaccine and multiple sclerosis (MS) and has ordered the company to pay two women who contracted MS after receiving the vaccine an as-yet undetermined amount of compensation. The ruling is important, because it rejected arguments that a direct and irrefutable link between the vaccine and MS is needed, said Gisele Mor, the plaintiffs' attorney. "It ruled that barring scientific evidence, serious, precise, and similar evidence was enough proof," Mor noted.
