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Jesus was a Racist? Christianity is Judaism?
I happen to agree with people who propose that Christianity is overlooked when it comes to Zionism. We have Orthodox Jews fighting against Zionism, and we have Christians fighting as well.. but both inherently support Zionism! Also note, that the Christians fighting Zionism mostly do it as racism towards Khazars! Part of the conspiracy involves creating an environment of hate to keep the Jewish community tight, and for the establishment of hate crime laws for the criminals to hide behind.
Jesus displays racism:
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Matthew 15:22-26 22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Repeated in Mark 7:25~27, where she's identified as being Greek (Gentile aka Goyim) who are referred to here as dogs compared to the children (Israelites).
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Matthew 10:5-6 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Christians and other Zionist exposers are contesting that the Jews we know today are not the Israelites of the Bible. This only further supports Judaism and racism putting the blame on the fake Israelites.
Now take this passage into account for the rest of the Bible quotes here:
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Titus 1:2 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
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Genesis 17:7-8 7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
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Genesis 17:13 13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
Who is Jesus?
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John 1:1-14 John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jesus is the God of the Torah: the God of Judaism! Christianity is simply a denomination or cult branch of Judaism!
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Matthew 5:17 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Sorry, but people promoting Christianity are wether they're aware of it or not; supporting Zionism, Racism, and Judaism! We cannot condemn Judaism and give Christianity a freepass!
I'm not going to hate anyone for being Christian or Jewish. I was an ignorant Christian myself not long ago, and don't hate myself.
I found my way out of Christianity with the verses compiled in The False Apostle page.
A good friend once confessed to me that their faith in Jesus was out of fear of eternal damnation. I hope that this evidence can relieve some people's fears which lead to false faith. If Jesus is the Creator; we're better off trusting nature for evidence and knowledge of him than a book that was obviously corrupted by man.
*updates:
Leviticus 25:44-46 44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids. 45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession. 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.
Noah saved for his geneology:
Genesis 6:9-13 9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. 11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
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Deuteronomy 7:16 16 And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that will be a snare unto thee.
Jesus is the God of the Torah: the God of Judaism! Christianity is simply a denomination or cult branch of Judaism!
You are essentially correct. But I still think it is best to include other Christ figures within the scope of 'Christ'ianity. One who worships Herecles is technically a Christian. One who worships Mithras is technically a Christian. Jesus worship is a sub-group of Christianity. I am not so sure that the mythical Jesus is completely made up of only Jewish messianic prophecies, however.
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Aeon wrote:
I am not so sure that the mythical Jesus is completely made up of only Jewish messianic prophecies, however.
Anyone ever asked a Rabbi why they don't believe in Jesus? I did.
Apparently the prophecies concerning Jesus were added to the the OT and not to be found in the originals. The prophecies they didn't add were clearly taken out of context and related to something or someone else.
I happen to agree with people who propose that Christianity is overlooked when it comes to Zionism. We have Orthodox Jews fighting against Zionism, and we have Christians fighting as well.. but both inherently support Zionism!
Jesus displays racism:
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Matthew 15:22-26 22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Repeated in Mark 7:25~27, where she's identified as being Greek (Gentile aka Goyim) who are referred to here as dogs compared to the children (Israelites).
Christians and other Zionist exposers are contesting that the Jews we know today are not the Israelites of the Bible. This only further supports Judaism and racism putting the blame on the fake Israelites.
Now take this passage into account for the rest of the Bible quotes here:
Quote:
Titus 1:2 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Quote:
Genesis 17:7-8 7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.
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Genesis 17:13 13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
Who is Jesus?
Quote:
John 1:1-14 John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jesus is the God of the Torah: the God of Judaism! Christianity is simply a denomination or cult branch of Judaism!
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Matthew 5:17 17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Sorry, but people promoting Christianity are wether they're aware of it or not; supporting Zionism, Racism, and Judaism! We cannot condemn Judaism and give Christianity a freepass!
I'm not going to hate anyone for being Christian or Jewish. I was an ignorant Christian myself not long ago, and don't hate myself.
A good friend once confessed to me that their faith in Jesus was out of fear of eternal damnation. I hope that this evidence can relieve some people's fears which lead to false faith. If Jesus is the Creator; we're better off trusting nature for evidence and knowledge of him than a book that was obviously corrupted by man.
I think it's great that someone is willing to take this topic on and do it well enough to stir up enough thought for a decent debate as well. There aren't a lot of places like this on the web.
This is why I am not a Christian. I am not a slave to Israel or their prophet, Jesus. This entire religion (well, most are) built on slavery of the mind through fear.
It's the BIGGEST and cruelest hoax ever played on humanity.
Am I saying I am an athiest? NO.
But this fear engrossing dogma just can't be it. We can already think beyond it, so how can it be it?
Just remember this: When you look to a religion and they ask for total faith based on NOTHING, remember they ask the same thing of Children at Christmas time regarding the fat man in the cute red outfit. I realize that's sort of a poor analogy, but sometimes simplicity works.
I was raised in the "church" I know what I am talking about. I heard all of the "have faith", "who are you to question God?" answers to questions.
Why wouldn't God want you to think for yourself and arrive at conclusions using the mind which he supposedly gave you?
The bible was written in time when it was expected that people thought the Earth was all there is and that stars were "heaven." The entire church establishment is based on supression of knowledge.
Yes, most rabbis don't believe in this God. However, many are Kabbalists which has it's roots in Egypt. They don't believe their own written word unless it's the racism in the Talmud. *again*, not all but many.
Regards to all~
Me
PS. this is my first post. Nice to meet you all.
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If Jesus came to bring peace... then what of the Crusades, Witch hunts, Inquisitions, holocausts, etc?
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Re: Jesus was a Racist? Christianity is Judaism?
losangelesmama wrote:
I think it's great that someone is willing to take this topic on and do it well enough to stir up enough thought for a decent debate as well. There aren't a lot of places like this on the web.
This is why I am not a Christian. I am not a slave to Israel or their prophet, Jesus. This entire religion (well, most are) built on slavery of the mind through fear.
It's the BIGGEST and cruelest hoax ever played on humanity.
Am I saying I am an athiest? NO.
But this fear engrossing dogma just can't be it. We can already think beyond it, so how can it be it?
Just remember this: When you look to a religion and they ask for total faith based on NOTHING, remember they ask the same thing of Children at Christmas time regarding the fat man in the cute red outfit. I realize that's sort of a poor analogy, but sometimes simplicity works.
I was raised in the "church" I know what I am talking about. I heard all of the "have faith", "who are you to question God?" answers to questions.
Why wouldn't God want you to think for yourself and arrive at conclusions using the mind which he supposedly gave you?
The bible was written in time when it was expected that people thought the Earth was all there is and that stars were "heaven." The entire church establishment is based on supression of knowledge.
Yes, most rabbis don't believe in this God. However, many are Kabbalists which has it's roots in Egypt. They don't believe their own written word unless it's the racism in the Talmud. *again*, not all but many.
Regards to all~
Me
PS. this is my first post. Nice to meet you all.
Hi, I stay in norcal. I found this place just recently also and found it to contain much info.. Can i ask what religion are you if you are not atheist? I myself have come to fall in the category between wiccan and shamanism.. heres why.... I do not believe that we are just some freak accident either.. i believe that the collective conscience of life itself is interwoven in the fabrics of space time and physical reality itself, for there is no reality without life, correct?..we are the cataylist of what some percieve as fate.. and those who can attune to the vibrations of the collective conscience that surrounds us all can weave those fabrics...we are part of our planet for without a conscience to view it and interact and create more life.. it is a lifeless rock in orbit.. I believe that in our realm, other planets are empty.. but in the spirit realm, theres much more going on.. which is why the moon effects us, its another collective conscience interacting with our own using the same medium of attunement.. my shamanistic qualities come in because since we are all part of the earth we have a connection to the anima life that shares this living organism gaia.... i believe that all animals are part of another collective conscience.. and that we can attune with them, and other spirits in a diffrent dimensional space and time that share this earth with us.. and become part of their collective conscience as a bridge into their realm.. what some have dubbed the axis mundi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_mundi
Hi, I stay in norcal. I found this place just recently also and found it to contain much info.. Can i ask what religion are you if you are not atheist?
I happen to agree with people who propose that Christianity is overlooked when it comes to Zionism. We have Orthodox Jews fighting against Zionism, and we have Christians fighting as well.. but both inherently support Zionism!
Zionism only goes back about 110 years ago. It was a polictial movement to set up Israel in the middle east by any means it takes to reach that goal.
Zionism if truth be known is what caused the Nazis to spring up. Did you know Hitler tried to give away Germany's Jews to any country that would take them but no country wanted them, why? Only after trying to deport the Jews to any country that would take them did Hitler start to murder the Jews and others.
Jesus is not a racist. The reason he didn't help that woman was because she was of her father, the devil. There are only 2 men in this world, Christ and Antichrist. You are either with Jesus or Satan. You can't be neutral in this war.
True Christians do not celebrate pagan traditions. Christmas, Easter and lent are pagan holidays. When the Roman Catholic Church was invented in order to bring the pagans in they adopted their holidays. Jesus wasn't even born on Dec 25th. He was born around the mid to late September(between 11th to 29th).
Please don't confuse Christians and Catholics, they aren't the same thing. The current Christians may be Apostate though just like the Judaisms were when Jesus was around. The Jewish scholars of the time had twisted God's word so much that they didn't see the signs of their day(that is why they killed Jesus) and it is just the same today.
History keeps repeating itself, what has been is what will be and what will be is what has been and there is nothing new under the sun.
Zionism only goes back about 110 years ago. It was a polictial movement to set up Israel in the middle east by any means it takes to reach that goal.
History keeps repeating itself, what has been is what will be and what will be is what has been and there is nothing new under the sun.
if there is nothing new under the sun, and ideas are birthed out of beliefs of things already exsisting, then how would anything like zionism have started on a definate date? i mean wouldnt its ideals be based on something previously known which would make its origins older than the proposed date? what belief system does zionism stem from and how old are those beliefs? surely those poeple have had the idea to take over that land for more than 110 years. probly a dumb question, but i feel like a dumb person sometimes so im gonna ask.
Zionism only goes back about 110 years ago. It was a polictial movement to set up Israel in the middle east by any means it takes to reach that goal.
History keeps repeating itself, what has been is what will be and what will be is what has been and there is nothing new under the sun.
if there is nothing new under the sun, and ideas are birthed out of beliefs of things already exsisting, then how would anything like zionism have started on a definate date? i mean wouldnt its ideals be based on something previously known which would make its origins older than the proposed date? what belief system does zionism stem from and how old are those beliefs? surely those poeple have had the idea to take over that land for more than 110 years. probly a dumb question, but i feel like a dumb person sometimes so im gonna ask.
Zionism isn't a religion. It is a polictial movement, nothing more.
As I have said Satan always takes what the Bible says and twists it to his own purpose.
Jesus came 2000 years ago(there is plenty of historical info that he did plus why would his followers risk their necks for a lie?). At first the people in the know tried to kill all followers of Christ. When that failed, they absorbed the Christians into the Babylonian religions and perverted Christany to discredit the true Word of God.
The Bible warns us this would happen that man would dare to change the word of God and change the laws.
His laws are:
1. No other Gods
2. No graven images
3. Don't take God's name in vain(in other words don't swear)
4. Keep the Sabbath holy(rest from your own works on the seventh day, Sunday is not the seventh day)
5. Honor your mother and father
6. Don't kill(abortion is murder)
7. Don't commit adultery(having sex outside marriage is adultery, so is masterbation(you might say well animals do it but we are supposed to be above animals, don't give in to temptations of the flesh))
8. Don't steal
9. Don't lie(omission of the truth is a lie)
10. Don't covet(what part of not taking someone elses land do our leaders not understand?)
(covet
verb
coveted, coveting
1. To long to possess something (especially something belonging to someone else).
Thesaurus: crave, desire, fancy, want, lust after, yearn for, thirst for, hunger for.)
Zionism isn't a religion. It is a polictial movement, nothing more.
even politcal movements must stem from beliefs that were formed previously to the actual start of the movement. poeple dont get political over nothing, its because they BELIEVE in something! my point being that the actual movement may have a date, but the beliefs that fueled the movement are much older. so when talking about when zionism actually started, one would have to look at the root or origin of the beliefs of those poeple.
Zionism isn't a religion. It is a polictial movement, nothing more.
even politcal movements must stem from beliefs that were formed previously to the actual start of the movement. poeple dont get political over nothing, its because they BELIEVE in something! my point being that the actual movement may have a date, but the beliefs that fueled the movement are much older. so when talking about when zionism actually started, one would have to look at the root or origin of the beliefs of those poeple.
Zionism was created by the bankers to get more money out of the people. The Protocals of Zion was written by the bankers but was written in such a way that if it was ever discovered it could be blamed on the Jews.
Have you noticed how all the so-called axis of evil countries have one thing in common? None of them are controlled by a central bank. In other words the Rothchilds and Rockafellas of this world have no influence in those countries. What they do is put their form of control in those countries like a central bank and bleed the country dry just like in Jamaica. Jamaica is all but bankrupt, the only thing keeping they heads above water is tourists from America.
so what religion do you believe the zionists follow? do you think the zionists are at the top of the worlds power pyramid? do you have any resources for your information that you wanna share with the forum?
so what religion do you believe the zionists follow? do you think the zionists are at the top of the worlds power pyramid? do you have any resources for your information that you wanna share with the forum?
