Were Humans Created by More Advanced Life Forms?

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Look at the variation in dogs and cats that we've brought about. Look at the breakthroughs in genetic engineering that we've made. Look at the Hindu religion which includes beings with animal parts like an elephant head.

What created and separated different nations (what people are calling races)? Why are we becoming more alike as time goes on and we interbreed? Isn't it apparent that we were either selectively bred or genetically engineered in the same fashion that we do with pets? We are predisposed to genetic diseases just like purebred dogs. Are we humans a pet or slave race?

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anything is possible.

every part of the ancient world has some reference to a serpent/dragon race,
and talk of interbreeding between the alien intelligence and humans.

it's a bit weird.

i'm looking at the skin on my knuckle and am seeing snake-skin scales.

mainly..

how did that alien race come to be?

were they created? then ho created them? who created them?

wouldn't there have to be a beginning? and how did that intellligence come to be?

personally, i jst go with the story of animal intelligence eventually breaking thr to the consciousness that we know.

and perhaps there is something 'higher to evolve to'

perhaps a universal understanding, sight outside the eyes'..

something we can't comprehend, the way animals can't comprehend our minds.

maybe we are a slave race..

or maybe we are in the process of evolving.

and just enslaved by a few families of our own kind.

it would so great to have a ti-vo that has the unedited records of the planet's history,
and then you could just watch and see the whole truth.

and whether or not they're beliefs are true,
it is important to preserve as much information in public hands
about ancient civilizations, and cultures, and their beliefs.

with so many of them conquered and destroyed,
the ordinary people lose a lot of knowledge and real history,
and see things in the eyes of 'the conquerers'..

we are detached from our planet's and our people's history.

gnostics believe knowledge is the only way to freedom.

so with no knowledge, a detached ignorant people are indeed a slave race.

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Very interesting. st0neskull, have you read David Icke's 'The Biggest Secret'? That's where I first heard about, what DI says, the Reptilian race. I don't exactly believe all of what he says, but I am convinced through his research, along with all of the references to Serpent/Dragon race throught history and ancient civilizations, that a Serpent/Dragon race has played a tremendous role in humans past, perhaps origins.

David Icke is most known for his writings on the Reptilian race and how they can shape-shift to and from human form to their reptilian form though frequencies. I believe it could very well be, but this is something, like with a lot of things, that I would have to experience to believe.

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	it would so great to have a ti-vo that has the unedited records of the planet's history, and then you could just watch and see the whole truth.

That would be great!

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	and whether or not they're beliefs are true, it is important to preserve as much information in public hands about ancient civilizations, and cultures, and their beliefs. with so many of them conquered and destroyed, the ordinary people lose a lot of knowledge and real history, and see things in the eyes of 'the conquerers'..

Some related info:

http://www.cathar.info/catholicchurch.htm

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Here are a few things that may surprise you about the Roman Catholic Church
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In its attempt to re-write history, we know beyond all doubt that it has tried to destroy and suppress information it did not want to hear, and that it has produced a very long string of deliberate forgeries. The Donation of Constantine, the pseudo Isadoran Forgeries and the False Decretals or just three notable examples.

"He who controls the past, controls the future; and he who controls the present, controls the past." -- George Orwell

"History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon." -- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769 - 1821)

"Any fool can make history, but it takes a genius to write it." -- Oscar Wilde

"History will be kind to me for I intend to write it." -- Sir Winston Churchill (1874 - 1965)

"Half of writing history is hiding the truth." -- Malcom Reynolds

"The history of our race, and each individual's experience, are sown thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal." -- Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), Advice to Youth

"So very difficult a matter is it to trace and find out the truth of anything by history." -- Plutarch (46 AD - 120 AD)

"History always has been and always will be regularly rewritten, in response to new questions, new information, new methodologies, and new political, social, and cultural imperatives." -- Eric Foner

"History is the fiction we invent to persuade ourselves that events are knowable and that life has order and direction. That's why events are always reinterpreted when values change. We need new versions of history to allow for our current prejudices." -- Bill Watterson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_history

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A classic example of history being written by the victors would be the scarcity of unbiased information that has come down to us about the Carthaginians. Roman historians left tales of cruelty and human sacrifice practiced by their longtime enemies; however no Carthaginian was left alive to give their side of the story.

Similarly, we only have the Christian side of how Christianity came to be the dominant religion of Europe. However, we know very little about other European religions, such as Paganism. We have the European version of the conquest of the Americas, with an interpretation of the native version of events only emerging to popular consciousness since the early 1980s. We have Herodotus's Greek history of the Persian Wars, but the Persian recall of the events is little known in Western Culture.

In many respects, the head of state may be guilty of cruelties or even simply a different way of doing things. In some societies, however, to speak of or write critically of rulers can amount to conviction of treason and death. As such, in many ways, what is left as the "official record" of events is oft influenced by one's desire to avoid exile or execution.

The Tianenmen Square incident in 1989 is an example of a society in which freedom to speak out is not tolerated. How can an historical account from such a regime be accepted as "truth" when there is no voice to alternatives?

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In his "Society must be Defended", Michel Foucault posited that the victors of a social struggle use their political dominance to suppress a defeated adversary's version of historical events in favor of their own propaganda, which may go so far as historical revisionism (see Michel Foucault's analysis of historical and political discourse above). Nations adopting such an approach would likely fashion a "universal" theory of history to support their aims...

Note in the last quote that Foucault correctly defines "historical revisionists" as those who originally distort or destroy history--not those that attempt to correct it.

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	David Icke is most known for his writings on the Reptilian race...

I have listened to some of these ideas from David, but I can't say I have been convinced. I agree, I'd need to see it to believe it. I have one question that lends some credibility to the "elites are reptilians" concept: With the way these "powerful" people guard themselves, and with as secretive as they are, does anyone know first-hand what goes on in their personal lives? The only way to prove that they are or aren't reptilians would be to actually be there with them and see how they live behind the scenes.

I liked his video "Freedom or Fascism: The Time to Choose", and I spent some time researching some of the points he made in it. (Some I had already known, others were new.) He doesn't go into the reptilian thing in it.
http://www.davidicke.com/dvd/

Here is a (semi-fictional?) movie where he goes into the reptilian thing: "The Brandon Cory Story".
http://www.truthseekertv.com/

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	stOneskull wrote:
	and perhaps there is something 'higher to evolve to' perhaps a universal understanding, sight outside the eyes'.. something we can't comprehend, the way animals can't comprehend our minds.

Kind of like how our human minds are incapable of of perception beyond the third dimension..even though we know much more than we can perceive is in fact quite there..

I personally find this very, very fascinating.

I like the way Dr. Sagan demonstrated this apparent phenomenon:

The same perception problem can also be said in respect to radio waves, radiation, the wind (we cant see it but we can sure feel it) etc.

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Carl Sagan is just...simply...amazing. I think I'll try to find more videos of his on youtube.

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To what lengths do we need to go to explain that there are evildoers out there, and they are just as human as you and me... except that the whole alien BS plays no part in all this mess... unless of course you have encountered one yourself, then it's a matter of whether you need to be in an asylum or something where they treat ppl with a weird mass hyped, highly propagated sense of escape from reality...

A salesman knows what you want, why because whenever you drink... you get drunk, but yet... you go out and drink again!!!

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Truthseeker wrote:

I have listened to some of these ideas from David, but I can't say I have been convinced. I agree, I'd need to see it to believe it. I have one question that lends some credibility to the "elites are reptilians" concept: With the way these "powerful" people guard themselves, and with as secretive as they are, does anyone know first-hand what goes on in their personal lives? The only way to prove that they are or aren't reptilians would be to actually be there with them and see how they live behind the scenes.

I liked his video "Freedom or Fascism: The Time to Choose", and I spent some time researching some of the points he made in it. (Some I had already known, others were new.) He doesn't go into the reptilian thing in it.
http://www.davidicke.com/dvd/

Here is a (semi-fictional?) movie where he goes into the reptilian thing: "The Brandon Cory Story".
http://www.truthseekertv.com/

I have a book called Flying Serpents and Dragons: Mankinds Reptilian Past and it talks of how in ancient times, there was this superior who's right hand couldn't even see him dine, let alone even see its face. The superior lived in a tent, I think it was, and had guards surrounding the tent. The name given to it was a Greek word meaning 'hideous' or 'repulsive'. I'll have to read that part again, and more of the book as well. Though that was a very long time ago, it could very well be tied to today. Of course, it would be pretty difficult to get our hands on a high ranking member of Skull and Bones and interrogate him lol.

Oh yeah, someone left a review for either that book or Return of The Serpents of Wisdom and mentioned something about more than one Star Race, more than one race of Reptiles. He/She mentioned that some were kind and some were savages. With that being said, it does in a way make sense that if there were more than one Star race that created man, the ruthless ones ventured beyond the sea to invade other countries and commit mass genocide. This also gets me to second-guess if the Illuminati/Freemasons are truly the ones behind world domination or in any way part of it. I base this off of how Christianity and Judaism are tools of Zionsim (last time I checked anyways, someone do correct me of I'm wrong), Zionism is a product of Israel and Freemasons are strictly against religion, I believe it is christianity in particular. I am aware of the symbols around Washington D.C. that are supposedly associated with the Illuminati/Freemasons, though I don't know when they were built. There is supposedly a building shaped like a Swastika, and that's also what I'd like to bring up. Not the building itself, but the fact that during Hitler's reign, the Swastika was adopted as a symbol of hate. The Swastika symbol was actually a symbol of good fortune from India, but according to this link it actually predated the Egyptian symbol Ankh: http://history1900s.about.com/cs/swastika/a/swastikahistory.htm. The Swastika was also used by many other cultures as well in China, Japan, India, and southern Europe. What I'm trying to get at is that the Swastika was taken out of context, and I'm sure this isn't the first time it's happened. As far as I know, the Masonic star has the head pointing up, and a lot of people will tell us that the devils star is pointed downward (which anyone can see on the Republican logo), and we all know the devil idea came from the bible which the Masons are against. About those symbols in D.C., I wouldn't be suprised if Skull and Bones or some other secret society used those symbols to scapegoat the Masons.

Anyways, I need to do more research on this.